[thegmanifesto]

(03-15-2013 10:51 AM)WestCoast Wrote:  

I don't think WEDO needs to answer to anyone, of all the people I've met from this forum/in real life I'd say he's number 1 in terms of having his shit together. This is coming from someone who has partied with billionaire HF managers. He's older than I but at least he is a great role model for a long-term plan. It's actually awesome we see eye to eye in terms of the posts I just threw up, lets me know I've got my head on straight.

West,

I always get the feeling you think I am "challenging" you on these threads. I don't want to come off like that. I am asking these questions because you and WEDO are some of my favorite posters, and I learn from you guys. I respect your guys opinions. Just wanted to make that clear.

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In terms of the $4K or $15K comment you can easily figure out the implied message I am sending by making that statement. Lets put another spin on it.

Give me $100-200 a night to go out and night game or $1,000 a night. In the USA, I will have no change in pull. Same idea in Colombia, you give someone $4K spend that's like $200-300 a weekend for partying and social circle etc. after that it's massive diminishing returns.

Again, I just don't see this.

$1000 a night in the USA buys you time and access.

At a G a night, you can bounce venues and skip lines like no tomorrow. You can hit spots that have the best chances and not worry about covers or transpo. You can grease.

Hell, $1000 a night you can buy a $400 ticket to a charity event filled to the brim with models and high end broads.

You don't think your chances go up in a place like that?

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The end of the message is this. Top end Quality for average guys is better abroad. At $X your quality peaks in the USA, that same peak is higher abroad. People of average means or whatever we want to call it "average guy" will pull better abroad. If you don't congrats you're in the 1%...

That should break it down enough.

Ok. Maybe I have a different perspective.

My point is that, if I have 20k per month in Colombia, and 20k per month in USA, I am doing better in USA.

The extra money doesn't help me in Colombia. Its not like I am going to flash a huge Bankroll in a bar in Colombia. Not like you would somewhere like Las Vegas or The Turf Club of The Del Mar Racetrack.

Hell, I had equal funds in Montreal this summer, and equal funds in Miami Beach, and I did better in Miami Beach. At least volume wise. Looks wise about equal.

So, I see you point if a guy is getting blanked in USA, sure, he might do better in another country.

But in America, you have so many advantages; connections, language, people know you are The G by the way you handle yourself, dress, talk etc.

I don't see how you can have those same advantages in another country when you arrive there cold.

Hell, it takes a while to figure out what the best spots are on a given night. Not to mention some countries, ie Colombia are pretty damn slow during the week. Bogota and Cartagena were. I heard Cali and Medellin are slow as f*ck during the week.

Who knows, maybe it's just my Game style that doesn't translate as well.

But that is what I am trying to figure out.

How are you guys doing so much better with less money in other countries?

I will say it again. I want to be sold on this. Hell, I would rather be paying $2 for a cocktail than $20 a cocktail when it's all said and done.

[Vicious]

I travel to the US from Scandinavian with the delightfully slutty women in mind. Like Stalin said "quantity is also a quality".

[WestCoast]

@G

Nah I don't care about being challenged by the dangers of the "interwebz". You should already know I like some of your advice as well.

Again, if you're doing $20K and pulling 9's no reason to leave.

I think you're misconstruing two things. Why can't you buy the same status you buy with $20K in Colombia? Reason... You don't spend enough time there.

Lets put it another way.

Assuming you hit the ground running world wide, excluding the USA, any city. 2 weeks to bang a new girl. Which one would give you the best quality? That is likely the best country for you to expat to.

I don't blank here, I do "okay" 7ish range now some lucky stunners here and there, but the fact that I can land in SA and pull a 7 with weak ass spanish is a dead giveaway the long-term prospects are stronger.

I would bet good money "the g" in Colombia is pulling just as well as "the g" in the USA. You just know the USA system Better than the system abroad. That's not going to change you were born here. Unless of course you fully invest into multiple years in one location.

So landing to floor running which is better, that's the best measurement, you have an unfair advantage in the USA. So do I. This is why I like NYC better than any city and we seem to agree on city choices here, because on a quality/quantity basis we know which cities are "better". Apply that same routine abroad.

Make sense?

[Menace]

G, basically I think most game stuff is not really relevant to you and your lifestyle. It's not like there is some country where the women are 11's and 12's and have three tits and two pussies. Guys are doing so much better because they start off much lower than you. Thus they have much more room for improvement. If you are already at a top level in the US, then your ROI for going to another country is going to be marginal at best, and it makes no sense to go abroad for women only aside from a change of scene/culture/landscape, etc.

[rudebwoy]

"My point is that, if I have 20k per month in Colombia, and 20k per month in USA, I am doing better in USA".

You are saying you with the same amount of money you are doing better in the USA? Really!!!

I travel to Scandinavia from US(Canada) with the delightfully slutty women in mind. Granted I cannot get $2 cocktails, if that is your thing.

[rudebwoy]

(03-15-2013 11:29 AM)WestCoast Wrote:  

@G

Nah I don't care about being challenged by the dangers of the "interwebz". You should already know I like some of your advice as well.

Again, if you're doing $20K and pulling 9's no reason to leave.

I think you're misconstruing two things. Why can't you buy the same status you buy with $20K in Colombia? Reason... You don't spend enough time there.

Lets put it another way.

Assuming you hit the ground running world wide, excluding the USA, any city. 2 weeks to bang a new girl. Which one would give you the best quality? That is likely the best country for you to expat to.

I don't blank here, I do "okay" 7ish range now some lucky stunners here and there, but the fact that I can land in SA and pull a 7 with weak ass spanish is a dead giveaway the long-term prospects are stronger.

I would bet good money "the g" in Colombia is pulling just as well as "the g" in the USA. You just know the USA system Better than the system abroad. That's not going to change you were born here. Unless of course you fully invest into multiple years in one location.

So landing to floor running which is better, that's the best measurement, you have an unfair advantage in the USA. So do I. This is why I like NYC better than any city and we seem to agree on city choices here, because on a quality/quantity basis we know which cities are "better". Apply that same routine abroad.

Make sense?

Bravo, you nailed it.

[thegmanifesto]

(03-15-2013 11:29 AM)WestCoast Wrote:  

@G

Nah I don't care about being challenged by the dangers of the "interwebz". You should already know I like some of your advice as well.

Again, if you're doing $20K and pulling 9's no reason to leave.

I think you're misconstruing two things. Why can't you buy the same status you buy with $20K in Colombia? Reason... You don't spend enough time there.

Point well taken.

And that is my question that no one seems to answer, how do you buy (or achieve) the same status in another country?

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I don't blank here, I do "okay" 7ish range now some lucky stunners here and there, but the fact that I can land in SA and pull a 7 with weak ass spanish is a dead giveaway the long-term prospects are stronger.

You couldn't do the same in America? Or better? Easier?

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I would bet good money "the g" in Colombia is pulling just as well as "the g" in the USA. You just know the USA system Better than the system abroad. That's not going to change you were born here. Unless of course you fully invest into multiple years in one location.

So landing to floor running which is better, that's the best measurement, you have an unfair advantage in the USA. So do I. This is why I like NYC better than any city and we seem to agree on city choices here, because on a quality/quantity basis we know which cities are "better". Apply that same routine abroad.

Make sense?

I guess.

I still don't see girls in other countries as being easier than Las Vegas.

(03-15-2013 11:33 AM)Menace Wrote:  

G, basically I think most game stuff is not really relevant to you and your lifestyle. It's not like there is some country where the women are 11's and 12's and have three tits and two pussies. Guys are doing so much better because they start off much lower than you. Thus they have much more room for improvement. If you are already at a top level in the US, then your ROI for going to another country is going to be marginal at best, and it makes no sense to go abroad for women only aside from a change of scene/culture/landscape, etc.

I think this is a good point.

A guy getting blanked in America travels to another country and his status is raised simply by being American.

I feel my status is lowered in other countries by being American and being lumped in with them.

Girls in other countries don't realize that I am top of the food chain in America. I have to school them. That takes time.

In America I feel that girls have a shorter learning curve about me.

They can realize very quickly, sometimes in the first moments of conversation that I am better than average.

Explaining that to a girl from Colombia, because she has no reference points of me, is a lot harder.

(03-15-2013 11:36 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

"My point is that, if I have 20k per month in Colombia, and 20k per month in USA, I am doing better in USA".

You are saying you with the same amount of money you are doing better in the USA? Really!!!

Yeah, that is exactly my point.

Again, maybe I am doing it wrong.

That is what I keep on trying to find out from everyone.

[Menace]

There is liquid capital (cash money) and illiquid capital (shared culture, social status, language, other intangibles, etc.) The first is transferable between countries but the second isn't. That's why you can do better with the same amount of money in Country X than in Country Y, even if Country Y has a much lower standard of living.

And I have taken advantage of the status and wealth differential myself in going to poorer countries, but I do realize that I need to work on my game stateside. Otherwise it's a crutch, and it doesn't really help your development. And I am talking about women only here. There are plenty of reasons to expatriate somewhere else that I make no comment on.

[WestCoast]

Yeah I can land in NYC and pull a 7 with hard work, but that's not a fair comparison. Because I know the city, know the spots that's pretty much my point. We have a competitive advantage in the USA know what to look for what floor plan what type of girls etc etc etc. the fact I can do that in Colombia is mind boggling, that's like me flying into LA with zero connections and zero know how and pulling it off, I think even you'd be shocked if an average guy with average game did that.

So I can fly into a country like that and pull a 7 with weak Spanish, is pretty comparable to a dude flying into NYC, who dresses like crap and has $20 in his pocket and pulls a 7. It's impressive on a RELATIVE basis.

In terms of getting this going abroad I only know one country well enough to pull it off and that's brazil, problem is it's too expensive from opportunity cost basis as Wedo mentioned for me to bother with. The girls I roll with out there would head turn 99% of this forum if they were NYC type chicks.

Also agree with menace there, you have no real illiquid bargaining chips when you land. So if you can pull the same quality fast, that's a dead giveaway at the bigger picture.

[bojangles]

I've found London is the easiest place to pull for me personally, the quality of girls I meet abroad is higher, they are harder to pull for sure.

[WestCoast]

(03-15-2013 11:58 AM)bojangles Wrote:  

I've found London is the easiest place to pull for me personally, the quality of girls I meet abroad is higher, they are harder to pull for sure.

Stab in dark you are from the UK. If so that's exactly the point I'm trying to make.

It's like me saying spring break = easiest spot for me (it is) but okay... There is a glaring bias in that reason.

On a similar topic, Roosh choosing a country over Poland (now that he has spent over 8 months there or so) would be mind boggling, everyday he gets to know the system just a tad better further fogging up the image.

Note, I'm no saint and not able to get away with 100% clear vision either. This is a bit obvious given my distain for people complaining about SF/LA/Cali in general. That's likely because I've figured out the "system" better than most.

[temujin]

I'd say it's more of a curve in the pussy hotspots of the world. This is assuming you are in an English-friendly place like Poland or the Baltics.

You start out at the low end of the curve. New to the city, boggled by the beauty around you and how accessible and friendly the girls seem to be. Asking for directions around town becomes a joy in itself, because of the positive responses you get. You start banging everything.

As you get to know a place, build social circles, and understand the culture (and a bit of the language), you start banging higher quality women with less effort expended.

At the same time, you are dialing down on banging everything in sight because you are getting pickier. Your standards go up compared to when you were in the Anglosphere. You start thinking that you no longer want skanky club sluts; leave those for the visiting Italians and Turks, you think; you want a girlfriend-quality stunner, the ones you rarely see out at night past 2am.

You now have a few regular FBs on rotation, if you haven't shacked up seriously with a local girl already. You're on the downward part of the curve. The number of women you bang goes down, but not for lack of opportunity.

Quite simply, you're now like the hot chick in the Anglosphere -- you don't want to settle, you want the best you can possibly get. You tease less perfect women and string them along as "friends", who hope they can hover around you and eventually land you as their boyfriend.

The curve can re-start for a guy, when he goes into a relationship, realizes he jumped the gun too early, and dumps her to get back into the scene again.

But the rate at which you accelerate towards the downward part of this curve gets faster and faster. Just the nature of life, and getting older.

[thegmanifesto]

(03-15-2013 12:08 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  

Note, I'm no saint and not able to get away with 100% clear vision either. This is a bit obvious given my distain for people complaining about SF/LA/Cali in general. That's likely because I've figured out the "system" better than most.

I don't get this.

I hate California and I have forgotten more successful "systems" in that place then most people will ever learn.

I have explained the many reasons why The California Police State sucks that are indisputable.

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Back to my point. Let me illustrate an example and will shed some light on my Game:

On Tuesday I hit up a new restaurant based in NYC that just moved here. It is known as possibly the best place in NYC for the type of food they do. The place is in "soft opening" mode, so not officially open.

So, like I said, I roll in on Tues (the G's night) with a fly girl. The place is insane, but that is neither here nor there.

The owner rolls up to me and my girl at the end of the meal, introduces himself, get's us some pro-bono wine and after talking to him, he gives us a full tour of the joint.

The guy is a smooth NYC cat, and it's a Game recognize Game situation. He is an NYC heavy, I have a little rep on The Wessyde. Again, Game recognize Game.

Lockdown.

I roll in the following night just to say hello, again, pro-bono vino.

Say what up to a bunch of the other people in their; bartenders, waiters.

Place on Full Lockdown.

Keep in mind, this place isn't officially open yet and it is poised to be red-hot.

Now I can clock girls out of this spot for months to come and everytime get the red carpet treatment.

I didn't know a single person before walking in. It might have been my first night ever in Moscow.

This kind of stuff happens to me all the f*cking time in America.

Does it happen in other countries? Not so much. Sometimes. Maybe. Gabriel Garcia Marquez gave me a Game recognize Game situation, but it is way more rare.

Westcoast, do you pick up what I am throwing down here?

I mean is the happening to guys on here in Uzbekistan, Palmira or Cebu City?

Because it doesn't happen for me nearly as much.

[WestCoast]

Yeah I do know what you are talking about. It simply means there is no reason to leave the USA for you, that's awesome. You have extremely high status here, to replicate that abroad would take years not days.

So I don't really understand how that refutes any of my posts, if anything you're pretty much the shining example of the top .01% Or whatever number we Want to use.That's awesome and I'm happy for you keep on slaying those bitches.

If you are a cat in the rat race you can never view the race from the view of a rat. Vision fogged for good. In a great way.

We should all strive for your level of status, the vast majority, that's a pipe dream. I don't sell dreams, I sell high ROI investments. Anyone can become a low end baller ($100K salary + half mil to a mil in the bank) your level is just not attainable for most. That's coming from an optimistic person as well.

[thegmanifesto]

(03-15-2013 01:10 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  

Yeah I do know what you are talking about. It simply means there is no reason to leave the USA for you, that's awesome. You have extremely high status here, to replicate that abroad would take years not days.

So I don't really understand how that refutes any of my posts, if anything you're pretty much the shining example of the top .01% Or whatever number we Want to use.That's awesome and I'm happy for you keep on slaying those bitches.

If you are a cat in the rat race you can never view the race from the view of a rat. Vision fogged for good. In a great way.

We should all strive for your level of status, the vast majority, that's a pipe dream. I don't sell dreams, I sell high ROI investments. Anyone can become a low end baller ($100K salary + half mil to a mil in the bank) your level is just not attainable for most. That's coming from an optimistic person as well.

Ok.

I got you. I guess I just feel kind of strange on the forum where the majority of the guys think differently than me, at least on this issue.

I wonder if I am doing something wrong.

And again, this brings me to my point I keep on asking, how are guys getting this kind of status abroad? Opening nightclubs? Webcam studios? P0rn? What?

I don't have anyone those things in America, for the record.

I am just me.

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Anyone can become a low end baller ($100K salary + half mil to a mil in the bank) your level is just not attainable for most.

I think the amount of money I have is vastly over inflated by people's runaway imaginations on here.

For instance, that above Tues nights cost (with the pro-bono vinos) about $90.00, for two.

Wed night above? $5 tip to the bartender (pro-bono vino)

Anyone could afford that.

See to me, that is strong Game.

The Game of Life.

[WestCoast]

Yeah that's fine, the more I read your posts the more I think that you're actually my usual wingman (obviously not possible).

To each his own, I know what you're talking about and will stick with my guns that the plan/idea I laid out is better for the vast majority of guys.

In terms of high status abroad it's more time consuming than the usa. It's one of those waterfall type situations where you need to create a group of girls that feed you more hence you get invited to clubs etc.

Unlike USA where if you bring in just one attractive girl (different ones) a few times a week you're the man. I have shared a few photos of the billionaire I know in SA with a. Few forum guys, so I do have a slight idea of how it works. It's doable much more doable than in the USA, where the level of hurdles is higher.

Just size up the culture and societal frame works, figure out where you fit the mold best, and move on. Sounds like you found your sweet spot already so non issue for ya.

[worldwidetraveler]

It just seems that people don't care too much about lifestyle and everything revolves around pussy.

[rudebwoy]

Let's be honest, we are playing the cards that are dealt to us. G's lifestyle maybe ideal for him, but it takes time to build up all those connections to be able to visit a restaurant and get free bottles of vino or complimentary hotel rooms.
I will say that being a American already gives you strong DHV in most places in the world, especially Europe. If you are not a typical American and have a few good traits going for you then the rest is gravy.
I think we saw evidence of this in Roosh's video in Romania, girls asks "where you from" and then "take my number". Does it get any easier than that?? Is that happening to you in your home country?
I was hanging with Roosh in Croatia, two 24 year old hotties rolled up beside us in a bar. Roosh opened the one gal and before I could open her friend, she was already asking me where in America I was from. To me the funniest thing about the whole weekend is that I was wearing jeans, converse all stars and a t-shirt. Could I hit a club in Vegas, Miami or NYC dressed like that? Roosh even told me to dress down before I went out. Seems like a far cry from tailor made suits, Gucci shoes and cuff link shirts.

[Kentucky]

(03-15-2013 11:19 AM)Vicious Wrote:  

I travel to the US from Scandinavian with the delightfully slutty women in mind. Like Stalin said "quantity is also a quality".

That's strange

Having been to both I am surprised you have to go abroad to find slutty women, You live in the Mecca of whoredom

[InternationPlayboy]

(03-15-2013 10:48 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

And the whole "4k in SA is way better than 15k in USA" thing that nobody seems to answer.

There's no way I see that. To be honest I was pretty much spending the same amount in SA, if not more, as I was in Miami. The only difference was that I was going out 3-5 nights a week in South America as opposed to maybe 1-2 nights a week in Miami. I can see if you live in South America, sure it will be cheaper, but going down there for only a month, trying to find places to rent out, you are gonna be spending some money. If you're only down there for a month, you don't know how to get the best bang for your buck. But either way, $15k is a lot of money. There is no way you can live larger in South America with $4k than you could in the states with $15k, NO WAY! Basically, in Colombia, MAYBE everything is half as much as the states, and that's being generous, cause let's be honest, it's not unless you are living in a dangerous area. So how could 4k get you further than 15k? There's just no way. I know with $15k in the states I would be living large. And I also know I spent almost 4k in Medellin, and yeah, I was having a good time, but I wasn't living like a baller. I don't know though, I also just find ways to make it work in the US, that wouldn't be as simple in South America. I would go out in Miami Beach and we would pay $60 for a bottle as opposed to $400, and get free entrance. It's easier to pull strings in the US. When you are abroad, it's harder to have in's with the locals, because you're not a local yourself.

[WestCoast]

(03-15-2013 04:22 PM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  

(03-15-2013 10:48 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

And the whole "4k in SA is way better than 15k in USA" thing that nobody seems to answer.

There's no way I see that. To be honest I was pretty much spending the same amount in SA, if not more, as I was in Miami. The only difference was that I was going out 3-5 nights a week in South America as opposed to maybe 1-2 nights a week in Miami. I can see if you live in South America, sure it will be cheaper, but going down there for only a month, trying to find places to rent out, you are gonna be spending some money. If you're only down there for a month, you don't know how to get the best bang for your buck. But either way, $15k is a lot of money. There is no way you can live larger in South America with $4k than you could in the states with $15k, NO WAY! Basically, in Colombia, MAYBE everything is half as much as the states, and that's being generous, cause let's be honest, it's not unless you are living in a dangerous area. So how could 4k get you further than 15k? There's just no way. I know with $15k in the states I would be living large. And I also know I spent almost 4k in Medellin, and yeah, I was having a good time, but I wasn't living like a baller. I don't know though, I also just find ways to make it work in the US, that wouldn't be as simple in South America. I would go out in Miami Beach and we would pay $60 for a bottle as opposed to $400, and get free entrance. It's easier to pull strings in the US. When you are abroad, it's harder to have in's with the locals, because you're not a local yourself.

This is the point! Ha.

You would have strings
You would have all those connects

If we're talking about "lifestyle" yeah $15K = better lifestyle in USA, I'd be mentally retarded to believe otherwise.

I don't care about beaches, fine wine, fine dinner, spas, nice clothes, or nice whips.

All I care about is pussy, a gym, a decent place with decent logistics and enough time to party and booze that I can barely stand from dancing all night. So I guess I actually fit the stereotype from the op, ha!

[InternationPlayboy]

Even without strings to pull though. I guess it just depends on the type of person you are, like you said. Sure, if you wanted bottle service every night in both places, South America is going to be much cheaper. But I just posted this on another thread. When I got back from South America (Mostly Lima and Medellin, which I would say are pretty close to the same price) I arrived in Denver. My friend took me to a normal mexican restaurant. I got a burrito and a drink. The burrito ran me $9 and the drink $5. I remember thinking, "Wow, this is pretty cheap." Point is, I want to say living in a place like Medellin or Lima is going to cost you just about the same as living in a city like Denver. So there is no way I can see $4k going further in SA as $15k in the US, unless you are living in the US and getting bottle service 5 nights a week in Miami Beach. Otherwise, I definitely think $15k is going to get you much further in the US than $4k in South America. I mean honestly, food and drinks in Peru or Colombia are about the same as Denver. Rent may be a tad more in Denver, and gyms are more expensive in Peru or Colombia.

[WestCoast]

(03-15-2013 05:23 PM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  

Even without strings to pull though. I guess it just depends on the type of person you are, like you said. Sure, if you wanted bottle service every night in both places, South America is going to be much cheaper. But I just posted this on another thread. When I got back from South America (Mostly Lima and Medellin, which I would say are pretty close to the same price) I arrived in Denver. My friend took me to a normal mexican restaurant. I got a burrito and a drink. The burrito ran me $9 and the drink $5. I remember thinking, "Wow, this is pretty cheap." Point is, I want to say living in a place like Medellin or Lima is going to cost you just about the same as living in a city like Denver. So there is no way I can see $4k going further in SA as $15k in the US, unless you are living in the US and getting bottle service 5 nights a week in Miami Beach. Otherwise, I definitely think $15k is going to get you much further in the US than $4k in South America. I mean honestly, food and drinks in Peru or Colombia are about the same as Denver. Rent may be a tad more in Denver, and gyms are more expensive in Peru or Colombia.

Yeah I agree. We were on the topic of just getting top end girls.

Also in the cost of living calc it's tough bc you would outright own a spot in SA since nice places are cheap, but that's a lifestyle discussion. Which I don't think we were going back and forth on, maybe I'm wrong though, if so yeah all your points are true

[InternationPlayboy]

(03-15-2013 05:27 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  

(03-15-2013 05:23 PM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  

Even without strings to pull though. I guess it just depends on the type of person you are, like you said. Sure, if you wanted bottle service every night in both places, South America is going to be much cheaper. But I just posted this on another thread. When I got back from South America (Mostly Lima and Medellin, which I would say are pretty close to the same price) I arrived in Denver. My friend took me to a normal mexican restaurant. I got a burrito and a drink. The burrito ran me $9 and the drink $5. I remember thinking, "Wow, this is pretty cheap." Point is, I want to say living in a place like Medellin or Lima is going to cost you just about the same as living in a city like Denver. So there is no way I can see $4k going further in SA as $15k in the US, unless you are living in the US and getting bottle service 5 nights a week in Miami Beach. Otherwise, I definitely think $15k is going to get you much further in the US than $4k in South America. I mean honestly, food and drinks in Peru or Colombia are about the same as Denver. Rent may be a tad more in Denver, and gyms are more expensive in Peru or Colombia.

Yeah I agree. We were on the topic of just getting top end girls.

Also in the cost of living calc it's tough bc you would outright own a spot in SA since nice places are cheap, but that's a lifestyle discussion. Which I don't think we were going back and forth on, maybe I'm wrong though, if so yeah all your points are true

I got you. I thought you were talking about just cost of living in general. IDK man, I think it just depends where you live. If you live in a place like MIA, you need a lot more money to get top notch girls (Or at least connections and appear to have money). Where I'm staying now, you just have to be cool, but also keep in mind you aren't going to find the quality here that you will in MIA. But I also have friends banging top noch girls in Vegas that don't make more than $3k a month.

[WestCoast]

(03-15-2013 05:39 PM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  

(03-15-2013 05:27 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  

(03-15-2013 05:23 PM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  

Even without strings to pull though. I guess it just depends on the type of person you are, like you said. Sure, if you wanted bottle service every night in both places, South America is going to be much cheaper. But I just posted this on another thread. When I got back from South America (Mostly Lima and Medellin, which I would say are pretty close to the same price) I arrived in Denver. My friend took me to a normal mexican restaurant. I got a burrito and a drink. The burrito ran me $9 and the drink $5. I remember thinking, "Wow, this is pretty cheap." Point is, I want to say living in a place like Medellin or Lima is going to cost you just about the same as living in a city like Denver. So there is no way I can see $4k going further in SA as $15k in the US, unless you are living in the US and getting bottle service 5 nights a week in Miami Beach. Otherwise, I definitely think $15k is going to get you much further in the US than $4k in South America. I mean honestly, food and drinks in Peru or Colombia are about the same as Denver. Rent may be a tad more in Denver, and gyms are more expensive in Peru or Colombia.

Yeah I agree. We were on the topic of just getting top end girls.

Also in the cost of living calc it's tough bc you would outright own a spot in SA since nice places are cheap, but that's a lifestyle discussion. Which I don't think we were going back and forth on, maybe I'm wrong though, if so yeah all your points are true

I got you. I thought you were talking about just cost of living in general. IDK man, I think it just depends where you live. If you live in a place like MIA, you need a lot more money to get top notch girls (Or at least connections and appear to have money). Where I'm staying now, you just have to be cool, but also keep in mind you aren't going to find the quality here that you will in MIA.

Yep we're speaking same language