Quote: (03-22-2015 10:40 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:
I really just had the enlightenment that if for whatever reason I meet a girl in a foreign country and I bring her back knowing there will be better opportunities for my children, I think I can get a pre-nup, (guessing marriage visa is the easiest way to get a chick to the U.S.) the rest though I just know going in, yeah she and me probably won't work out long run.
Have to chalk up the cost to the ability to have children - even then she can turn on you and try to keep the kids from seeing you. I would have to risk on my instinct the girl's motherly nature will override the hamster and she will know deep down if we aren't together the kids still need to see and have a good relationship with their dad. I think that type of girl is pretty easy to pick out. Frivorce girls on the otherhand I agree make up such a huge number of chicks it isn't worth trusting your gut. You go in knowing you will most likely end up frivorced.
Hell if it gets bad, initiate the divorce (hopefully easy pre-nup (that includes children custody payment clauses) divorce yourself). Get out early, you really wanted kids now you took the best shot at success in the U.S. you could hope for so you can't blame yourself. You got your kids to look forward to. It's a shit sandwhich, I think building a family the best you can is still worth it.
I do have faith that U.S. custody laws and whatnot will improve significantly - I think societal problems will start sticking out like such a sore thumb something will have to be done.
Travesty: Good points. Let me offer another option. Find the foreign wife, vet her spend time with her. A lot of time. Get to know her family test her. Not shit test her so much as test her mettle and character in different situations and different locations. SPend time in nature, in different cities. Get that fish out of the water and observe how she deals with it. And more importantly observe how you deal with it all.
Then when the time is right move to a third country an Expat friendly country that you like and is convienent to the US. Such as Costa Rica, Panama, the Bahamas, etc. You have access to everything you need in the US as a US citizen. Still do the prenup and get married. Get a good lawyer, the best lawyer you can find. I cannot express how important this is. This is like night and day.
Once you get this set up. Live in the third country and enjoy life.
But finally I must stress while I really liked the OPs post and repped it. Not every woman is this bad. Not every married situation is terminal. Is it worse than previous generations? Absolutely. Is the OP correct on all of these failings? He is.
But there are still good women and good marriages. But you are never going to be able to guarantee your odds completely. Expecially with human beings. Do your best and enjoy your wife and dont spend your life trying to protect yourself from the downside. You just might miss a little bit of the upside.
I have been married to an American woman in the US for over 20 years. And I have gone from beta pussy blue pill as they get to having complete control of our marriage. Thanks mainly to the stuff I learned in the manoshpere. It can be done. And I probably could not get rid of her now if I tried. And believe me I am contemplating it. lol
One last thing. Dont get married before 40. Actually when we talk about marriage not benefiting men. I am starting to think there is a specific benefit for men to marriage and that is when men get older and are no longer able to game so easily. The women live longer you can marry a younger woman. And now you have someone to take care of you in your advanced years. I know this is not talked about on here much but is a very real thing. And it will become very very important to you later on. Plan for it now and be ready.