[WesternCancer]

(03-03-2013 12:41 PM)Goldin Boy Wrote:  

And the MSM and society in a whole have a very obvious tilt towards to the advancement of women, at the expense of men. The misogyny is necessary to achieve a balance in a heavily gynocentric world.

500 lbs of white knighting on one side requires 500 lbs of misogyny for true balance. Pussy ain't fossil fuel, it's very abundant.

You're saying we should hate women because of a 'tilt towards the advancement of women' by society? Why not hate society instead?

[Screwston]

(03-03-2013 04:11 AM)reppin_the_847 Wrote:  

The only dude that was worse than Max Hardcore was Khan Tusion. Another sicko is Duke Skywalker (the guy behind Ghetto Gaggers & Latina Abuse, etc.). There's a strong rumor that Khan Tusion was actually a wealthy real estate developer in L.A. of Brazilian Jewish descent named Mark Handel. The funny thing is Mark Handel's brother Bill Handel is a famous AM radio personality in L.A. It's real funny how Mark Handel was able to keep his identity under wraps. The tribe did a fantastic job of shielding him from los federales unlike Max Hardcore and his jail bid.

(03-02-2013 03:01 PM)Jules D. McMillan Wrote:  

I have no sympathy for bitches that work with Max Hardcore. Anybody with moderate knowledge of the porn business knows he is one of the craziest(and sickest) dudes in the game. If she didn't bother to do her research, then oh well.

Fuck her.

Meatholes was bad just because of the shit he would say. I think theyre both ugly, old fat fucks which had to have made it worse.

[esperar]

(03-03-2013 12:11 PM)Teedub Wrote:  

(03-03-2013 11:46 AM)Kingsley Davis Wrote:  

(03-03-2013 09:13 AM)bacan Wrote:  

I don't find any joy in watching stuff like that

Sometimes RVF tilts a little too far on the scale towards unnecessary animosity toward women.

Quit watching shit like this and go out on a date with a fun girl, sheesh

White Knight is strong within.

It's not white knighting, he's right.

Why should any of us care about misogyny? Chicks have no problem fucking men over, and the misogyny they get is deserving.

[Teedub]

(03-03-2013 03:40 PM)esperar Wrote:  

(03-03-2013 12:11 PM)Teedub Wrote:  

(03-03-2013 11:46 AM)Kingsley Davis Wrote:  

(03-03-2013 09:13 AM)bacan Wrote:  

I don't find any joy in watching stuff like that

Sometimes RVF tilts a little too far on the scale towards unnecessary animosity toward women.

Quit watching shit like this and go out on a date with a fun girl, sheesh

White Knight is strong within.

It's not white knighting, he's right.

Why should any of us care about misogyny? Chicks have no problem fucking men over, and the misogyny they get is deserving.

Just because we dislike misandry in society, doesn't mean we should hold "unnecessary animosity" and clap with joy at the plight of a vulnerable person into mental illness.

[esperar]

(03-03-2013 03:57 PM)Teedub Wrote:  

(03-03-2013 03:40 PM)esperar Wrote:  

(03-03-2013 12:11 PM)Teedub Wrote:  

(03-03-2013 11:46 AM)Kingsley Davis Wrote:  

(03-03-2013 09:13 AM)bacan Wrote:  

I don't find any joy in watching stuff like that

Sometimes RVF tilts a little too far on the scale towards unnecessary animosity toward women.

Quit watching shit like this and go out on a date with a fun girl, sheesh

White Knight is strong within.

It's not white knighting, he's right.

Why should any of us care about misogyny? Chicks have no problem fucking men over, and the misogyny they get is deserving.

Just because we dislike misandry in society, doesn't mean we should hold "unnecessary animosity" and clap with joy at the plight of a vulnerable person into mental illness.

Misandry is not going anywhere and no one seems to give a shit about it, therefore, I'm not going to care about misogyny.

[Blaster]

Animosity towards an entire gender is an unnecessary emotion that can obscure perceptions of reality. For some guys this might fuel them to greatness, but for the vast majority it will simply make life more difficult.

[Blaster]

(03-03-2013 04:00 PM)esperar Wrote:  

Misandry is not going anywhere and no one seems to give a shit about it, therefore, I'm not going to care about misogyny.

My understanding is that the suggestion is really for the benefit of you and the men who participate the forum. I don't get the impression anyone expects you to care much about misogyny writ large, or that you should self-censor in order to appeal to women and feminists.

[A CLOCKWORK TRADER]

(03-03-2013 09:13 AM)bacan Wrote:  

I don't find any joy in watching stuff like that

Sometimes RVF tilts a little too far on the scale towards unnecessary animosity toward women.

Quit watching shit like this and go out on a date with a fun girl, sheesh

Animosity toward women? Just for showing a video of a pornstar having her 'aha' moment?!?! She said so herself. Her family is completely different and this is the life she has chosen.

It takes a while for people to realize they're neck-deep into a cesspool. She just realized it on camera and had a meltdown. That's it, end of story. This is about one woman. Nothing to do with women in general.

[Teedub]

(03-03-2013 04:18 PM)A CLOCKWORK TRADER Wrote:  

(03-03-2013 09:13 AM)bacan Wrote:  

I don't find any joy in watching stuff like that

Sometimes RVF tilts a little too far on the scale towards unnecessary animosity toward women.

Quit watching shit like this and go out on a date with a fun girl, sheesh

Animosity toward women? Just for showing a video of a pornstar having her 'aha' moment?!?! She said so herself. Her family is completely different and this is the life she has chosen.

It takes a while for people to realize they're neck-deep into a cesspool. She just realized it on camera and had a meltdown. That's it, end of story. This is about one woman. Nothing to do with women in general.

I think he means in general, on this forum. Trust me, delve through the archives and there is almost a revenge-esque theme to some threads, when sometimes it isn't warranted. I've been guilty of this myself too.

[WesternCancer]

(03-03-2013 03:40 PM)esperar Wrote:  

Why should any of us care about misogyny? Chicks have no problem fucking men over, and the misogyny they get is deserving.

That's a childish mentality to have. You're letting the actions of women control you.

"someone was mean to me so I'm going to be mean to everyone else"

[sevenseers]

that was really fucked up and disturbing...cant laugh at seeing another person in that kind of condition. she just realized how fucked her life was, and im sure that dude put in a lot of effort getting her fucked on drugs for a few days before they began shooting

[A CLOCKWORK TRADER]

(03-03-2013 04:19 PM)Teedub Wrote:  

(03-03-2013 04:18 PM)A CLOCKWORK TRADER Wrote:  

(03-03-2013 09:13 AM)bacan Wrote:  

I don't find any joy in watching stuff like that

Sometimes RVF tilts a little too far on the scale towards unnecessary animosity toward women.

Quit watching shit like this and go out on a date with a fun girl, sheesh

Animosity toward women? Just for showing a video of a pornstar having her 'aha' moment?!?! She said so herself. Her family is completely different and this is the life she has chosen.

It takes a while for people to realize they're neck-deep into a cesspool. She just realized it on camera and had a meltdown. That's it, end of story. This is about one woman. Nothing to do with women in general.

I think he means in general, on this forum. Trust me, delve through the archives and there is almost a revenge-esque theme to some threads, when sometimes it isn't warranted. I've been guilty of this myself too.

Fair enough then. I joined not too long ago. Haven't seen much of it. The threads that do have that vibe I ignore. But this goes for the manosphere in general. There are plenty of blogs I've stopped reading because it turned into what you're talking about.

[esperar]

(03-03-2013 04:23 PM)WesternCancer Wrote:  

(03-03-2013 03:40 PM)esperar Wrote:  

Why should any of us care about misogyny? Chicks have no problem fucking men over, and the misogyny they get is deserving.

That's a childish mentality to have. You're letting the actions of women control you.

"someone was mean to me so I'm going to be mean to everyone else"

It's not about being mean. Shit loads of chicks have been mean to me, but when I see chicks being abused, I don't do anything about it. Why? Because they don't do shit about the reverse. I don't do things for people that I don't think they would do for me.

[Lemmo]

(03-03-2013 05:15 PM)esperar Wrote:  

(03-03-2013 04:23 PM)WesternCancer Wrote:  

(03-03-2013 03:40 PM)esperar Wrote:  

Why should any of us care about misogyny? Chicks have no problem fucking men over, and the misogyny they get is deserving.

That's a childish mentality to have. You're letting the actions of women control you.

"someone was mean to me so I'm going to be mean to everyone else"

It's not about being mean. Shit loads of chicks have been mean to me, but when I see chicks being abused, I don't do anything about it. Why? Because they don't do shit about the reverse. I don't do things for people that I don't think they would do for me.

Yeah, people shouldn't get pleasure from the misery of others or cause harm to others. And the vid was pretty gross. But men need to realize that they have an instinct (and society encourages them) to chime in or intervene every time something bad happens to a woman. Men need to realize that this is a bad instinct and learn to repress it. If developing a culture of shaming such behavior by calling it "white knighting" helps that happen, it is a good thing.

[bacan]

I think this thread has gone in an interesting direction since my comments

This is not white knighting .. was there a girl I was trying to (naively) impress with my response? was I trying to somehow go back in time and protect this girl in this video? No, so that was a dumb thing to bring up

Is it my personal responsibility to hate women extra hard just because society as a whole is going the other direction? No.. what a waste of time and emotional energy.

I'm not saying we should actively care about or fight misogyny, but it's pretty fucked up to see a girl in a situation that you would never wish on your sister, friend, cousin, or daughter and laugh about it

Think of the guys you know that do best with women -- do they hate women? do they take joy in seeing them in their lowest moments? No. They might think women are flaky and fickle and overly emotional or even can be selfish, dishonest or manipulative at their worst, but they are also a great source of happiness and satisfaction in life if you are good with them and find the right girls

Who are the guys who hate women? The ones who spend years stewing in the emotions of rejection, self-loathing, sexual frustration.. the ones who've been dumped, cheated on and swindled by girls who left them for cooler guys ..

The guys who focus their efforts and energies on taking satisfaction in stuff like this are just getting farther and farther from the true point of this forum -- which is making ourselves happier by getting satisfaction out of our interactions with the fairer gender

You people need to realize the difference between politically being opposed to political trends that favor women and just straight up hating women because you're fucking losers who don't get any

I would bet a million dollars that the guys in this thread that are turned off by this have better game and more satisfying connections with girls than the guys spouting off about how girls are mean and privileged and deserve this or that crap...

Damn....

[that guy]

People act like if it was the man on the porn set having an emotional breakdown they wouldn't be laughing.

[Lemmo]

(03-03-2013 09:42 PM)bacan Wrote:  

I think this thread has gone in an interesting direction since my comments

This is not white knighting .. was there a girl I was trying to (naively) impress with my response? was I trying to somehow go back in time and protect this girl in this video? No, so that was a dumb thing to bring up

Is it my personal responsibility to hate women extra hard just because society as a whole is going the other direction? No.. what a waste of time and emotional energy.

I'm not saying we should actively care about or fight misogyny, but it's pretty fucked up to see a girl in a situation that you would never wish on your sister, friend, cousin, or daughter and laugh about it

Think of the guys you know that do best with women -- do they hate women? do they take joy in seeing them in their lowest moments? No. They might think women are flaky and fickle and overly emotional or even can be selfish, dishonest or manipulative at their worst, but they are also a great source of happiness and satisfaction in life if you are good with them and find the right girls

Who are the guys who hate women? The ones who spend years stewing in the emotions of rejection, self-loathing, sexual frustration.. the ones who've been dumped, cheated on and swindled by girls who left them for cooler guys ..

The guys who focus their efforts and energies on taking satisfaction in stuff like this are just getting farther and farther from the true point of this forum -- which is making ourselves happier by getting satisfaction out of our interactions with the fairer gender

You people need to realize the difference between politically being opposed to political trends that favor women and just straight up hating women because you're fucking losers who don't get any

I would bet a million dollars that the guys in this thread that are turned off by this have better game and more satisfying connections with girls than the guys spouting off about how girls are mean and privileged and deserve this or that crap...

Damn....

You are being called a white knight because you are having a big emotional reaction to a few people having a laugh at a porn skank throwing a tantrum. You make it sound like everyone is cheering on a rape.

And no one said anything about being actively mean to women. One person said something about being indifferent to misogyny and you decided this meant he and others hate women. You then insult most of the people in the thread. i thought the video was creepy, as did many others, and said so and left it at that. You are the only one who decided to get up on a white horse, preach to us about the richness women add to our lives and then throw out the Jezebel-like line that real men act like white knights/feminists so these guys must all be losers.

You even call women the "fairer gender". I almost suspect you're trolling.

[bacan]

Naw, not trolling. I just don't need to come to a forum that's basically about charming women to find a bunch of guys that have a twisted resentment towards them.

My original post was three lines so I don't know what big reaction you're talking about

Not talking about being a real man or using "jezebel like lines" either--- just pointing out that guys who don't get rejected by women don't tend to hate women, so we should basically "act like we've been there" on this forum and not have such a loserish attitude towards women that threads like this represent

Taking it one step further -- some people on this forum have real ambitions for winning the hearts and minds of people in the various debates about the direction that society is going in.. do you think seeing that our forum tolerates post like this help advance that cause? Yeah, thought so..

[Kingsley Davis]

(03-03-2013 10:07 PM)Lemmo Wrote:  

(03-03-2013 09:42 PM)bacan Wrote:  

I think this thread has gone in an interesting direction since my comments

This is not white knighting .. was there a girl I was trying to (naively) impress with my response? was I trying to somehow go back in time and protect this girl in this video? No, so that was a dumb thing to bring up

Is it my personal responsibility to hate women extra hard just because society as a whole is going the other direction? No.. what a waste of time and emotional energy.

I'm not saying we should actively care about or fight misogyny, but it's pretty fucked up to see a girl in a situation that you would never wish on your sister, friend, cousin, or daughter and laugh about it

Think of the guys you know that do best with women -- do they hate women? do they take joy in seeing them in their lowest moments? No. They might think women are flaky and fickle and overly emotional or even can be selfish, dishonest or manipulative at their worst, but they are also a great source of happiness and satisfaction in life if you are good with them and find the right girls

Who are the guys who hate women? The ones who spend years stewing in the emotions of rejection, self-loathing, sexual frustration.. the ones who've been dumped, cheated on and swindled by girls who left them for cooler guys ..

The guys who focus their efforts and energies on taking satisfaction in stuff like this are just getting farther and farther from the true point of this forum -- which is making ourselves happier by getting satisfaction out of our interactions with the fairer gender

You people need to realize the difference between politically being opposed to political trends that favor women and just straight up hating women because you're fucking losers who don't get any

I would bet a million dollars that the guys in this thread that are turned off by this have better game and more satisfying connections with girls than the guys spouting off about how girls are mean and privileged and deserve this or that crap...

Damn....

You are being called a white knight because you are having a big emotional reaction to a few people having a laugh at a porn skank throwing a tantrum. You make it sound like everyone is cheering on a rape.

And no one said anything about being actively mean to women. One person said something about being indifferent to misogyny and you decided this meant he and others hate women. You then insult most of the people in the thread. i thought the video was creepy, as did many others, and said so and left it at that. You are the only one who decided to get up on a white horse, preach to us about the richness women add to our lives and then throw out the Jezebel-like line that real men act like white knights/feminists so these guys must all be losers.

You even call women the "fairer gender". I almost suspect you're trolling.

Maybe she's related or resemble a sibling.

[Virtus]

I wouldn't be surprised Max released this as a viral commercial for his porn

[Travelsick]

That looks like a queer choice of porn alright.

What niche would you call that? Old dude doing young women dressed up to look even younger?

Bacan has a point, whenever someone says something's going to far or is unproductive around here he's labled a white knight and picked on.

[Faust]

I'm not watching the video because I really don't want to see a girl have an emotional breakdown on a porn set, but I saw something in Bacan's comment I thought was interesting.

"I'm not saying we should actively care about or fight misogyny, but it's pretty fucked up to see a girl in a situation that you would never wish on your sister, friend, cousin, or daughter and laugh about it."

This girl didn't find herself in a situation. She's not some east Russian peasant, kidnapped from the village and sold to white slavers to work in hardcore bondage porn. She's a 21st century American Woman, one of the most privileged creatures in the history of the planet. She knew exactly what she was getting into, and then it turned out it wasn't to her taste. I wouldn't wish it on my family, but it's irrelevant because none of them are that stupid.

[soup]

This thread is really about what happens when some women have to much free choice.

[Sailor]

(03-04-2013 06:38 AM)Faust Wrote:  

"I'm not saying we should actively care about or fight misogyny, but it's pretty fucked up to see a girl in a situation that you would never wish on your sister, friend, cousin, or daughter and laugh about it."

The situation i would never wish on my sisters is that of being a porn skank , if any of them made such a choice i would be past caring if they had a tantrum or not

[Blaster]

(03-03-2013 09:42 PM)bacan Wrote:  

I'm not saying we should actively care about or fight misogyny, but it's pretty fucked up to see a girl in a situation that you would never wish on your sister, friend, cousin, or daughter and laugh about it

People find humor in a lot of different things and it doesn't mean they lack empathy or sympathy. A shot of infamous Max Hardcore trying to sustain an erection while the girl starts ranting nonsensically about hippies is incongruent as fuck. Plenty of reason to laugh at that, no matter how you feel about the girl who put herself in that situation.

Did you laugh when Vincent shot Marvin in the face? Of course you wouldn't want any of your family to be in Marvin's shoes, or Vincent's for that matter. That doesn't mean it's not fucking funny.