[Basil Ransom]

"I wonder how much of it is culture friction. The west, at least superficially, has a more artistic and new age vibe. I wonder if these girls simply test for a sort of minimal "connectivity" with the west coast culture. In other words, you don't have to be a gallery owner, just have one as a friend. I find the west so easy to meet people and make friends, that I could imagine a girl would wonder why you haven't caught the "vibe" of the west. So in a way its like lining up the wrong polarity of batteries.

My hardcore RSD friend told me it takes 2 weeks to adjust to the culture and social vibe of a new place. But that's only if you are trying your best and adjusting yourself. I have no doubt that LA is not an easy place. But in my travels in the west coast, being homeless living in my van (but also an artist, etc) was almost a DHV because I was following my heart. Which in a way what the west is about, even if for some people its become just a sort of hypocritical hipster parody."

There is zero substance to this. As in, you hardly even made a coherent point. These girls are not going to suddenly get thirsty for your dick because you live in a van.

I actually joke about being homeless and it certainly doesn't hurt. But, short of being a celebrity or enmeshed with her circle, there is no panacea. We're not a bunch of losers who can't grapple with basic social conventions as you seem to suggest. Slubu and I have both spent many many years living here, as have the other critics of LA.

[Vaun]

I've said I think the girls in LA are hotter than NYC, but gaming is a different story, I have almost no experience in LA, and if its anything like Slubu's story, I can see why I got the response I did. I like the dark tans, beachy looking hippie girls, but I have zero patience for their high amount of flakiness. Had somewhat of a similar experience with an Austin girl. A hot girl, cool to hang with, but totally prude. To the point where I think she had mental problems. It happened last weekend, sort of messed me up in the head. I am guessing a lot of the girls outside of NYC just dont have their shit together, and it makes for bigger head cases. NYC also has the tourist element which also makes things a lot more fun, and easy. NYC has skewed my view that things are as easy as they are here, everywhere.

[Veloce]

He's dancing around the social circle point, intentionally or not. Having the right "calibration" isn't the issue here, as there are so many different scenes.

If you're friends with a gallery owner, you bang the chicks in that circle. Sounds like white/asian hipster girls downtown.

If you're an aspiring actor, you bang aspiring actresses.

If you're a casting director, you bang actresses.

If you're a higher up in a fashion company, you bang models

If you're connected to the rich kid Hollywood Hills party scene, you bang models

If you're a promoter, you bang club sluts

...and cold approaching doesn't really factor in that much in these scenes. Cold approaching gets you introductions.

Cold approaching is a discipline. It's a tool so that if you ever find yourself in a situation where there's pussy on a platter, you can get your share.

In L.A., the difficulty is getting to the buffet of pussy (and it is there). Approaching doesn't get you there.

[Stun]

Forget about all the cultural nuances and look at the most obvious difference between LA and New York. Logistics.

When I was sarging in LA earlier this year, I remember Saturday night I spent more time stopped in my car at ONE red light than it would have taken me to walk to a nearby bar in SF.

If you live in Mar Vista and go out in Hollywood e.g, you have to have you or the girl stay sober enough to drive back or take an expensive as cab or Uber ride. No public transportation to speak of, and with the Uber, no room for interpretation of what's going to happen eg no plausible deniability. A girl in an urban location can have PD that she is going on a 5 minute walk back to your house to look at your fishtank, but a 35 minute car ride?

I had multiple girls smile at me, eyeball me and open me in LA but I didn't come close to pulling because of nightmare logistics. LA is a "city" in name only.

[Basil Ransom]

Logistics is only one piece of the puzzle, and it pales in comparison to the differences in mentality. The story that Slubu told has little to do with logistics. If guys were having good interactions with girls and had to wait for a date to bang as opposed to a same night pull, they wouldn't be so critical of LA

I think girls here get this idea that there are certain acceptable channels for meeting men, depending on their scene. If you're not in one of those channels, good luck - at the slightest hitch or discomfort on her part, she will bail. Which is pretty likely, considering she also won't drink much on dates and she's been raised on Facebook, so that voice chiming "AWKWARD!" in her head is sure to go off and kill the seduction. Best to be an orbiter, or she must be intoxicated or preferably both for something to go down.

I was talking to a girl whose friend just moved to NY. She said her friend said that in NY people are a lot quicker to meet up, and quicker to say "I like you" and move things forward.

[Kaizen]

LA sounds brutal. I think I would implement some escort game if I lived there.

There's only so much work I'm willing to put in.

[Stun]

(09-13-2014 07:47 PM)Basil Ransom Wrote:  

I was talking to a girl whose friend just moved to NY. She said her friend said that in NY people are a lot quicker to meet up, and quicker to say "I like you" and move things forward.

A girl from NY once told me "Here (california) it's about what you see. In NY it's about what you feel."

That could explain what you're talking about above.

If 2 new yorkers are "feeling" each other, then it doesn't get to the level of image consciousness where you're all worried about who's looking at you, or is there another cooler person across the room, or what do my friends think

[kavakid]

(09-13-2014 06:25 PM)Basil Ransom Wrote:  

"I wonder how much of it is culture friction. The west, at least superficially, has a more artistic and new age vibe. I wonder if these girls simply test for a sort of minimal "connectivity" with the west coast culture. In other words, you don't have to be a gallery owner, just have one as a friend. I find the west so easy to meet people and make friends, that I could imagine a girl would wonder why you haven't caught the "vibe" of the west. So in a way its like lining up the wrong polarity of batteries.

My hardcore RSD friend told me it takes 2 weeks to adjust to the culture and social vibe of a new place. But that's only if you are trying your best and adjusting yourself. I have no doubt that LA is not an easy place. But in my travels in the west coast, being homeless living in my van (but also an artist, etc) was almost a DHV because I was following my heart. Which in a way what the west is about, even if for some people its become just a sort of hypocritical hipster parody."

There is zero substance to this. As in, you hardly even made a coherent point. These girls are not going to suddenly get thirsty for your dick because you live in a van.

I actually joke about being homeless and it certainly doesn't hurt. But, short of being a celebrity or enmeshed with her circle, there is no panacea. We're not a bunch of losers who can't grapple with basic social conventions as you seem to suggest. Slubu and I have both spent many many years living here, as have the other critics of LA.

What I am saying is that maybe if you want to connect to a girl who likes yoga, you need to actually like yoga. If you want to connect to a girl who likes film or modeling, you should actually have a personal interest in those things or have friends who are well connected in that area. Just a theory. I have no doubt that to have some interesting social circles is a minimum requirement in LA. I'm just wondering how important your enthusiasm for the LA lifetyle is to these girls. Who would do better, a well paid guy who just moved from Chicago, or the broke aspiring tattoo artist who is extremely passionate about his art?

I also agree that logistics must be very important. Look at the relative success of project hollywood that Mystery ran for proof of that. Supposedly Tyler went into major debt just to run that place.

I agree that ratios are critical too. NYC more women. LA more men. You need to be at least slightly above average in some way to get average (5) girls.

I wonder if girls who grew up in a regular family in So Cal are more or less likely to care how connected you are? Is a local girl more or less open minded to meeting men with different paradigms than the LA paradigm?

[la_mode]

An LA 5 might be a 7 in NYC. Keep that in mind too. There's a lot of these. NYC they'll make a big deal about how you're "not from NYC".

Lots of good looking younger-end cougars into yoga and whatnot in LA that look better than most early 20s women you'd find in most places.

Have style, be cool, charismatic and in good shape. Your job doesn't matter nearly as much. A lot of the rich guys are foreign and don't even understand American jokes.

LA also has more women in certain parts, as NYC outside Manhattan has more men. Ratios are never good in America though - anywhere.

[Basil Ransom]

For the record, us LA guys are getting laid, just not as well as we think we should be - it's that we hit that 8-wall which makes getting 8+s with any regularity a difficulty.

[Basil Ransom]

One thing I forgot to mention is something I have discussed here before about getting laid in LA, and a recent experience of slubu bears this out: girls only fuck you when they have nothing better to do. When there's no more blow, no more afterparty, the bar is closed, and people are leaving, that is when she lets herself be banged. Her initiating the bang in any substantive consistent way is mostly out of the question.

Yuppies and attractive girls in particular are obsessed with hewing to social scripts, to doing what they think everyone expects them to do. In a place like Vegas, the script says, among other things, fuck strangers, so they do, more readily. In LA it doesn't. And even in Vegas, LA chicks may be too busy partying with the DJ or celebs to get down to your room.

[Distant Light]

Interesting observations, I really need to explore other cities...

That said based on observations, NY is one of the easiest places due to "logistics" and the overall status/flow...
- Fall the Freshmans roll in
- Winter "everyone" wants to stay in and have sex
- Spring the euro interns roll in
- Summer the tourist are in full force


However, as a NYer I find everywhere else super easy due to my presence and "NY Way Of Being". Can't confirm this on 1st hand experience though. However, in atlantic city with my MOTHER literally took over a bar. Pulled back to back. While family was shopping the worker chick was trying to setup a meet for later.

When I think of LA I just think of it as a "logistics" issue, I would not want to have to drive all over. (still don't know how to drive) However, I've had nothing but awesome experiences with cali chicks (San Fran, San Diego mainly)

[Kish]

Does anyone know the name of the bar in this video? I think it's in LA.

[Drazen]

Its the pool at the Roosevelt Hotel.

[Basil Ransom]

Haha I've gotten busted by security at Roosevelt before myself - the whole place is lined with security cameras. They probably saw on the cameras the two of them going into the bathroom. I wasn't fucking a girl, but I was with one. Good thing I hadn't, otherwise I'd have gotten more than a polite warning.

[Thrill Jackson]

It's seems that gaming broads is doable in LA. However, how do you all deal with the cost of living? From what I heard, your rent is going to be at least 1.7k for a respectable place, and buying a house is out of the question unless you are banking at least six figures with another broad who's banking six figures.

[Easy E]

(01-24-2016 11:31 AM)Phil Jackson Wrote:  

It's seems that gaming broads is doable in LA. However, how do you all deal with the cost of living? From what I heard, your rent is going to be at least 1.7k for a respectable place, and buying a house is out of the question unless you are banking at least six figures with another broad who's banking six figures.

The simple answer is make more money.

Although, you could find a decent 1BR in Hollywood for 1,500 or so. Less is you are willing to live in a studio.

[Thrill Jackson]

But what keeps you guys from moving to a Dallas, Phoenix, etc. Its seems that extra money spent on rent could go farther in those cities than Los Angeles.

[Easy E]

(01-24-2016 12:23 PM)Phil Jackson Wrote:  

But what keeps you guys from moving to a Dallas, Phoenix, etc. Its seems that extra money spent on rent could go farther in those cities than Los Angeles.

True.

I'm the last person who would champion LA, but the cost of living can be managed somewhat. The sky-high cost of living that some seem to think exists in LA is only really applicable if you want to live in an luxury apartment in an expensive area (ex. Marina Del Rey).

The real problem with LA is that the jobs don't pay that well considering how high the cost of living is compared to other cities. There is this mentality among employers in LA that everyone will just commute from "The Valley" or some other place.

[azulsombra]

1700 for a respectable apartment in LA?

Its not quite that bad, you can find cheaper places and much cheaper rents than NYC. Most people in their 20s tend to live with roommates to save money also.

Not really fair to compare LA costs of living to fly over country places like Dallas and Phoenix. Socal probably has the ideal weather for most people in the US plus beaches and mountains about 30mins away, the geographical location is a huge draw. Tons of entertainment options and international culture abounds.

Most people aren't eager to trade that for Dallas or Phoenix 100F+ summers especially in their 20s. If they do move first option is usually NYC.

[Thrill Jackson]

(01-24-2016 02:16 PM)azulsombra Wrote:  

1700 for a respectable apartment in LA?

Its not quite that bad, you can find cheaper places and much cheaper rents than NYC. Most people in their 20s tend to live with roommates to save money also.

Not really fair to compare LA costs of living to fly over country places like Dallas and Phoenix. Socal probably has the ideal weather for most people in the US plus beaches and mountains about 30mins away, the geographical location is a huge draw. Tons of entertainment options and international culture abounds.

Most people aren't eager to trade that for Dallas or Phoenix 100F+ summers especially in their 20s. If they do move first option is usually NYC.

Buts whats the use of all that great weather, beaches, etc. when your in rush hour traffic 10 hrs a week, working 60 hours a week, and using god knows how much time to get day game bangs. It seems like a living situation where an average guy can not get ahead, even if he has a great work ethic

[Vaun]

(09-15-2014 04:13 PM)Distant Light Wrote:  

That said based on observations, NY is one of the easiest places due to "logistics" and the overall status/flow...

- Winter "everyone" wants to stay in and have sex

Friday night, swiping Tinder at home on my couch. I get a "hi" from my hairdresser.

[Merenguero]

(01-24-2016 04:43 PM)Vaun Wrote:  

She said I could still come in for cuts and we can pretend it didnt happen.

Famous last words. At least you have literally thousands of options if you need to find a new person to cut your hair in New York.

[Vaun]

(01-24-2016 05:21 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  

(01-24-2016 04:43 PM)Vaun Wrote:  

She said I could still come in for cuts and we can pretend it didnt happen.

Famous last words. At least you have literally thousands of options if you need to find a new person to cut your hair in New York.

Aww man, it sucks. She was literally one of the best I have ever had, but I wanted to have sex with her more I guess.

[Merenguero]

(01-24-2016 05:40 PM)Vaun Wrote:  

(01-24-2016 05:21 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  

(01-24-2016 04:43 PM)Vaun Wrote:  

She said I could still come in for cuts and we can pretend it didnt happen.

Famous last words. At least you have literally thousands of options if you need to find a new person to cut your hair in New York.

Aww man, that sucks. She was literally one of the best I have ever had, but I wanted to have sex with her more I guess. This is why I never shit where I eat.

I have one person on planet earth who can cut my hair the right way, so I understand what you're saying. There used to be some guy in a rural area, who was by far the best, and who charged me like $4.00 or something per hair cut. This guy was the angriest person who I have ever seen and looked like he was five minutes away from going postal. Just picture the angriest person in the world with a pair of scissors in his hand. He either died or disappeared or something.