Quote: (02-15-2016 02:40 AM)Gregmo Wrote:
Texting is an example of how in control woman are of dating. Most guys despise texting and would rather pick up the phone but woman simply won't answer. Imagine if men should try that out, simply don't text. Not going to happen of course so we are forced to play the stupid texting game.
Unless you have created the raw animal desire in her to want to meet up with you, no amount of smooth texts with correct lack of punctuation and emoticons will get her to meet up with you. It will simply entertain her and provide light validation, until she stops responding when you eventually try and ask if she would like to meet up. Roosh's texting guide is a good way to go because you won't waste too much time validating time wasters.
I think certain girls are starting to see the "logistics only" text approach as needy since you try arrange the meet up within the first 2-3 texts.
Has anyone experimented with text to call conversion? I'm experimenting with false time constraints to give the impression that I only have time to phone
No one forces men to play the texting game. That's complete bullshit. Most men just don't have the phone game skills to actually call a random slut from an online dating website and shoot the shit for 10 minutes. It's high risk and can be daunting. In fairness, most of these sluts don't have social skills either so there is plenty of blame to go around.
My game is simple if getting a number from online (calling from a day/night game lead is much easier):
1. Get number.
2. Text them so they have my number. I don't really make any statements that invites a text conversation. Tell them I'm gonna call later tonight or tomorrow.
3. If they try to start a text conversation, I might entertain it for 1-2 replies and then I say something to the effect that I need to go/do something/whatever and we'll talk soon.
4. Call
I think calling is great and think more people should do it. Why? Because if we are talking about online numbers, a phone call REALLY helps to give a sense about what kind (if any) chemistry exists personality wise. Obviously you can't determine physical chemistry until you meet but
talking to a slut for 10-20 minutes will do the following:
1. Give you a real solid sense if meeting her is worth it
Speaking from a megaton of online number/text/phone call/meet experience, there is a VERY high correlation of bang success between a good phone call and a bang actually happening. All the online chatting and texting in contrast is far more unpredictable and not reliable in my view. I can predict bangs with a high degree of accuracy just based on a brief 10-20 minute phone call. When you talk to enough chicks, you just get a 6th sense about who is going to put out or give you a fair shot vs who is going to be a pain in the ass and not worth the time. I don't have the time or energy to go meet every potential date lead so this helps thin the heard A LOT.
Remember, calls are real time and require effort on both parties to keep going. If she can't or isn't willing to talk for 10 minutes, how do you think a date is going to go? Don't believe sluts when they say: "Oh, I suck at talking on the phone" as a defense for being a boring/non-engaging on the phone.
No, real truth: these sluts suck at talking PERIOD. Don't buy the bullshit.
I cannot emphasis this enough: Assuming there is mutual physical attraction, the phone call will 95% of the time be a prelude to how a date will go.
2. Give you an opportunity to separate yourself from the horde of online cocks
Most guys will not call. The few that do can't run stranger phone game for shit. If you can pull it off, you really can make yourself stand out from the pack. If you run your phone game right, you can pretty much go on cruise mode during the actually date since the phone call in some cases becomes date 1 for all intents and purposes.
3. If you make a solid phone impression, it can do some of the heavy lifting if you meet and she is only borderline physically attracted to you. The phone call can buy you some time to run some game since she feels invested and knows enough about you to not completely shut you down right away. I've gotten a few bangs this way; riding the coattails of my phone impression to bulldoze through a lukewarm physical reception to ultimately score the bang.
Now, it isn't all sunshine and unicorns. The pitfalls:
1. You get one shot on the phone. If you are having a bad day; voice is fucked up, etc... that shit is gonna come across in a phone call. Most chicks will not forgive regardless of the circumstances. I've called chicks knowing I wasn't at 100% and definitely blew potential leads. If you do call, you must make sure you are in the proper mindset and health to make a solid impression.
2. You can run all the expert phone game in the world but if you meet and there isn't mutual physical attraction, it can be pretty awkward. This is why you limit phone calls to 20 or so minutes max. Enough to get a vibe, make a decent impression, and then get the fuck out and save the rest for the meet.
I've done some Deep Space phone game, 1-2 hrs on a single call with a online chick, and it works very well sometimes (enthusiastic bangs on the first dates that ultimately become alpha-widows) but it has backfired hardcore when the bitch ends up being a SIF. Easily avoidable if you limit yourself to 20 minutes and get a confirmation pic before meeting.
3. False-negatives. Occasionally, a chick will be having a bad day or really can't open up to someone they don't know over the phone. The only way to avoid this is through trial and error and developing a sense for a shy chick vs boring chick sounds like. The majority will be the latter.
Ultimately and this won't be a popular opinion, but I think text game is kind of gay. If you are texting and getting nudes, that's legit. But having drawn out conversations via text just seems really retarded and inefficient to me. I can learn more about a chick in a 5 minute phone call vs 2 weeks worth of texting. To each and their own I suppose.
