[BoiBoi]

(01-14-2013 09:07 AM)Kitsune Wrote:  

(01-14-2013 07:34 AM)BoiBoi Wrote:  

Being 20 and being an "examplary alpha" is usually mutually exclusive in the real world...

The problem in being 20 is you think of yourself as being top of the teenage food chain.

This guy might be among the alpha twenty year olds, because a lot of young guys don't get it until they're past twenty. It isn't until you're a bit older that you realise you're a 'man' and thus in competition with guys in their late twenties, thirties, and the old-timers that have seen it all.

Also, when you get out of your teens the competition for the same girls increases. When you're 20, then girls 16-20 will be your target market, and guys in their 30's won't touch a lot of them. When you and the girls in your peer group hit their twenties, you'll be competing for girls that every man will be trying to get.

I don't blame the OP though, everyone goes through it.

You are right, just wanted him to get some perspective.

[thegmanifesto]

(01-13-2013 02:15 PM)GreenGranted Wrote:  

Now I long for change. I hate the lifestyles of my parents, her parents, almost everyone in the age category 40+. They just sit in front of the television, working 9-5 and booking expensive holidays twice a year. But no one seems to live life to the fullest.

I am surprised that Tenderman hasn't taken a break from swooping married girls and flown out to wherever this kid is to wring his neck.

Nevermind, I just got a video that he did:

[Pappy]

It looks like they're fucking....

[Praetor]

OP:

[Cr33pin]

^^ That one pez thing near the middle looks like Roosh^^

[Frost]

Everyone's hating on this kid, because he reads books? And because he's asking for advice on an internet forum?

GG, here are the three things you need to do:

1) Avoid making any decision that will permanently affect your life for the next five years. Do not get married. Do not knock her up.

2) Grow as a person. Do not let a hot girlfriend pacify you into dropping all your new good habits.

3) Do what makes you happy. Right now, you are madly in love with this girl. Enjoy that if you want. Eventually, you will decide you would be happier to cut her loose and go out on the prowl. When that day comes, do that. Easy peasy Japaneasy.

There's blue pill delusion, i.e. that you should put a ring on this girl asap, but there's also red-pill delusion and groupthink, which is that all relationships are poison and no real man ever ejaculates twice in the same girl.

[EasyMoney]

I like how overconfident you come off, but I still get the vibe.


Why not just keep her as your main squeeze and pursue girls on the side. The wife/mistress setup is the way alpha males have done it since the beginning of time.

But this shit:

"I think you can compress the whole story in these sentences: I've learned game / lifestyle and internalised it. As a consequence I feel like Aragorn trying out a reforged Narsil for the first time, and I'm considering to break up with a perfectly feminine girlfriend to seek relations with multiple girls."

Gives me some pause.


My goal right now is to have a girl who will think she's my steady girl, and only dip into other girls who are super fly who I just can't resist.

[thegmanifesto]

(01-14-2013 11:52 AM)Frost Wrote:  

Everyone's hating on this kid, because he reads books? And because he's asking for advice on an internet forum?

Re-read the original post.

I don't think those are the reasons why.

Also, I don't think it's "hating". Maybe poking a little fun.

If you step into the ring, you have to expect some punches coming your way.

[sylo]

Your only alpha if you bring her over to my place and watch me fuck her, then raise my kid.

[Vienna]

OP, I was in your exact situation little more than a year ago. Had a nice girlfriend, but I also had the itch to see what else was out there. Everything was becoming a boring routine and I felt I wasn't growing as a man should at 20 years of age. I think she could sense that, since I became less and less invested in our relationship until I nearly stopped giving a crap. That was when she broke up with me, which was inevitable. I'm grateful for that experience, since I learned to break it off when I just don't feel it anymore. Because you know what? Getting dumped sucks, even if you're not as invested as you used to be.

All I can say is, if you have the itch, just rip the band-aid. So much of your energy goes into a relationship, which you could have put into learning a new language, get a job, apply yourself and study hard in university etc. instead (all of which I did). Basically, laying the foundation for the man you're destined to be.

You're young. Testosterone + a bunch of other badass hormones are still surging through your body, which is one of the causes you want to fuck new girls and have new experiences. Do yourself a favor and listen to your body and mind.

[Hannibal]

(01-14-2013 11:52 AM)Frost Wrote:  

1) Avoid making any decision that will permanently affect your life for the next five years. Do not get married. Do not knock her up.

This, this, many times this. All my friends who have knocked up women in their earlier years or gotten married or even in an extended LTR (I'm talking 3-5 years) completely regret it at this point. I basically have a five year head start on most of them on how to live as a bachelor who still gets ass on the side. I fucking hate it when my friends have to constantly be glued to their LTR at the time; it's annoying and it detracts from the camaraderie that men enjoy. Most of their significant others try to be "one of the guys" and it disgusts me when they try to outdrink me (a feat which has never been done by an American woman) or generally just compete to try to be one of the guys.

But in any case, it's hard to label yourself as an "exemplary alpha" because, and this was shitty for me the first time I thought about it, one of the things about being alpha is being experienced, which age has a lot to do with. There's a reason why older men who were even modestly accomplished were well respected in the past; it's because they got that far in the first place, so they knew something that most of their peers didn't. Whenever I try to label myself, I usually go for Greater Beta as my go-to response, as it's a lot softer than Rockfuck McHardass the alpha male extraordinaire and it implies that I still haven't figured everything out yet. That, and most alphas don't need to think about shit like I do; they just do it. I haven't hit that "End Game" that Roosh talks about, where the end game is no game at all, merely an internalization of what works.

I also knew a lot of "alphas" in highschool who haven't pulled ass in the five years since I graduated, so there's that. Do what you want, but if you supposedly have a perfect girlfriend, you probably want to spend some quality time with her before you go burying your pecker in as many sluts as you can manage. Or, if you want to get with some of them on the side, make damn sure she only has lingering feelings of doom that the relationship is jeopardized before you (and yes, that means you) cut it off.

I was a dumbass with my first girlfriend and didn't see it coming when she dumped me, something I still have a lingering feeling of regret about because she thought she was better than me when she did it. She also proceeded to fuck all the guys in my circle before getting engaged to some blue pill fucktard in the military who praises her constantly. Am I jealous of her? No, but I learned pretty fucking quick from my mistakes.

edit: I just watched that old guy beats up a young buck youtube video. It does look like they're fucking. That young guy must be a 19 year old vegetarian who gets a workout from Wii Fitness.

[K-man]

If you are not planning on giving her a ring, a McMansion, a couple of kids and a golden Labrador, then she will dump you herself soon enough.
So do yourself a favor and do it first.
That is, if you are not planning to give her these things.

[Cr33pin]

Fuck it i'll add my case.

I was in a 6 or 7 year LTR (still getting sex on the side) with a great girl, perfect body, good in bed, best random blow jobs, fun to hang out with, super good cook, made good money, let me do whatever I wanted... I honestly couldnt have had a better girl.. But then I discover the Roosh website, and Im on it everyday reading about people traveling around the world an banging lots of random girls an I think to myself "wow that must be the life" So I break up with my GF and travel to Asia for 6 months, during that 6 months I had tons of sex, kinky sex sex with virgins, It was pretty unreal... But after I had sex with these hot young asian chicks I just felt empty an foolish. It wasnt what I thought it was gonna be (now bear in mind im in my early 30s to and have had sex with more girls that I can count starting in highschool)...

Now I have been lucky/alpha enuff to get back with my ex LTR. Now im not hating on the Roosh website or what I did or anything im glad things unfolded as they did. I still check this site everyday.. but for me at my age an with all the random crazy sex I have had in my life.. I think im ok to settle down an maybe have a hell spawn.

As far as PUA skills...if you wanna be a great PUA the one best thing you can have is confidence.. I had that before I learned game back in the day an it got me just as laid. Im also a funny sarcastic asshole which girls I used to bang still tell me they miss to this day..

[thegmanifesto]

(01-15-2013 09:51 AM)Cr33pin Wrote:  

Fuck it i'll add my case.

I was in a 6 or 7 year LTR (still getting sex on the side) with a great girl, perfect body, good in bed, best random blow jobs, fun to hang out with, super good cook, made good money, let me do whatever I wanted... I honestly couldnt have had a better girl.. But then I discover the Roosh website, and Im on it everyday reading about people traveling around the world an banging lots of random girls an I think to myself "wow that must be the life" So I break up with my GF and travel to Asia for 6 months, during that 6 months I had tons of sex, kinky sex sex with virgins, It was pretty unreal... But after I had sex with these hot young asian chicks I just felt empty an foolish. It wasnt what I thought it was gonna be (now bear in mind im in my early 30s to and have had sex with more girls that I can count starting in highschool)...

Now I have been lucky/alpha enuff to get back with my ex LTR. Now im not hating on the Roosh website or what I did or anything im glad things unfolded as they did. I still check this site everyday.. but for me at my age an with all the random crazy sex I have had in my life.. I think im ok to settle down an maybe have a hell spawn.

As far as PUA skills...if you wanna be a great PUA the one best thing you can have is confidence.. I had that before I learned game back in the day an it got me just as laid. Im also a funny sarcastic asshole which girls I used to bang still tell me they miss to this day..

Interesting perspective.

Thanks for sharing.