[DVY]

God, I hate CA and their stupid environmental policies. Everything sounds good on paper and sucks on implementation and execution.

Point in case- low water-flush toilets. I shit you not (pun intended) that my shit gets clogged every other day.

Ever since starting strength and eating like a horse, i take monster dookies and i have to flush half-way through pooping. Otherwise, jam and i have to spend 5 mins trying to plunger and clean the punger.

CA, how have you implemented a toilet that jams constantly and I need to flush at least twice when I poop for it go down.

This insures that not only do I have more headaches because I cant poop peacefully, but also I have to waste the exact same amount of water regardless.

Instead of coming up w/some hippie idea and paying megabucks for it, why not copy the ruthlessly efficient germans and have a two flush-system toilet (1 button for pee, 1 for poop).

Sigh/ End Rant

Whats your guys experiences?

[soup]

[Belgrano]

Man up and get a Ferguson!

[Architekt]

2 button systems are standard here. Wasn't aware that was even an issue in most of the modern world

[Thomas the Rhymer]

You can pour in some bleach before flushing, give it about 10 minutes to work (even up to an hour if necessary), then flush.

[Panacea]

I wasn't aware this was a real thing good god, I thought that king of the hill episode was a joke.

[Cincinnatus]

I hate 'em too. Same issue. They're not the law in Ohio but a lot places with public restrooms have installed them so they can claim to be environmentally friendly - while ignoring the fact that those toilets are going to be flushed twice anyways because they clog so easily.

I guess I can understand why CA tries to implement policies intended to save water - most of the state's population lives in what would otherwise be a desert.

[kdolo]

Water efficient toilets are in fact not only not efficint, but less efficient than the old ones.


They require multiple flushes - and hence end up wasting more water than the original toilets

[Parlay44]

I've seen waterless urinals popping up in the malls.

[Blackhawk]

(01-13-2013 01:59 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

I've seen waterless urinals popping up in the malls.

The chemicals cartridges are more expensive than just using water. They're also more labor intensive --several times a month you have to remove the friggin bolt, remove the cartridge, inspect if it's empty, swig it around in a special cleaning solution you have to drive in, then reverse the entire process back.

For remote rest room areas in parks where access to fresh water is difficult to provide, they can make sense. To be installing them in a shopping mall two feet away from hand sinks with running water is pretty goofy.

My real objection to them is they're single use at a time. If you're going to have a concert hall, ball park, or other place where a lot of guys need to piss quickly, urinal troughs like this:



or the more modern this:



let a lot more guys get the job done quickly in the same square footage of bathroom space than dumbass shit like this:

[soup]

Put it in the haters lounge.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

I agree in general, but I don't think that the last picture is reduced-capacity at all. What kind of demand would such a toilet not be able to handle? The second-last, with just metallic walls with drains serving as urinals serves to splash everywhere and is extremely crude, like those holes that I've seen on old ferries.

Other than extremely populated concert venues or something, I think the wall solution should be avoided. It certainly doesn't look modern either.

[bacon]

the only thing worse than this is padded toilet seat covers. you know the ones which wont stay up when you have to take a piss. its the ultimate test of a beta husband if he allows them in this home. to me its kind of like signing off on taking a piss sitting down.

[Screwston]

What about those European toilets that shoot water up your ass after you take a dump

[pants]

I love those. Cleaner, faster. Feels good also.

[Tuthmosis]

We haven't even started talking about the epic skid marks that those stupid low-flow toilets invariably leave behind.

[Hotwheels]

I must have gotten a good one as I have no problems with multiflushes being required.

That's not to say I wasn't concerned while perusing the available options when I replaced one of my shitters a while back. Actually considered making a trip to a place they are not mandated and smuggling one back in.

[hoops330]

(01-13-2013 03:44 PM)bacon Wrote:  

the only thing worse than this is padded toilet seat covers. you know the ones which wont stay up when you have to take a piss. its the ultimate test of a beta husband if he allows them in this home. to me its kind of like signing off on taking a piss sitting down.

But what if you don't lift the seat when you piss and don't wipe up all the piss on the seat? Does that make you alpha?

[Teedub]

Its better than the Swedish situation, where men are being asked to sit down for both cleanlisness and because the penis represents a patriarchal symbol

[Cincinnatus]

Slightly derailing the thread here, but it's related: You know what pisses me off? Women that piss and moan about men leaving the toilet seat up. Bitch, move your hand two feet and put it the fuck down yourself!

Policy at my place - leave the toilet seat however you left it. If you have to take a shit and the toilet seat is up, put it down. If you have to take a piss and the toilet seat is down, put it up.

Or, in the case of my friends with pets - put the seat down so the fucking animals don't drink the toilet water!

[LooTa]

I noticed in Italy that the toilets were much shallower than the ones at home, so I'd flush before wiping as I was paranoid about touching shit as i reached down to wipe. I did feel like a giant walking around in Italy, so maybe they just make kid size toilets for kid size people?

[RASER]

Lets not even get into which way the water rotates when flushed!

I noticed the hole/opening in US toilets is small, the Aussie ones are much larger

Also, the US toilets when flushed the water rises up like a pool before exiting down the S tube

In US motels i have stayed at, motel management do laps of the joint at night with the plunger, its obvious you guys have major issues with your toilets?

"Lifes about, shooting you load"

[Hotwheels]

(01-14-2013 10:59 PM)LooTa Wrote:  

I noticed in Italy that the toilets were much shallower than the ones at home, so I'd flush before wiping as I was paranoid about touching shit as i reached down to wipe. I did feel like a giant walking around in Italy, so maybe they just make kid size toilets for kid size people?

Did your balls hit the water?

Have had that happen a few times at various hotels here in the States and it is very disconcerting....

[Blackhawk]

(01-14-2013 01:46 PM)Hotwheels Wrote:  

I must have gotten a good one as I have no problems with multiflushes being required.

The ones that came out initially after 1994 were weak. But then Toto captured 1/3 of the US market making low flow toilets that actually worked. Which finally got American Standard to wake up out of their coma and make working low flow toilets as well. Kohler, as always, was making pieces of art and never even hiccuped once during the change over.

All you need is a larger diameter flapper valve and a glazed trapway. Don't go for pressure assist or air injection systems. They make too much goddamn noise. There do exist quiet, low flow toilets you can flush at night without waking the rest of your home. But you'll have to go into the $200+ level.

I've known people to test toilets with a cheap pack of hotdogs that they'll slather in miso paste. Float four of them in there and give it exactly one flush. It's not enough that the waste goes away in one flush. The bowl should be completely whisked clean with nothing sticky left hanging around either. Anything less than that is not worth your money.

[LooTa]

(01-14-2013 11:07 PM)Hotwheels Wrote:  

(01-14-2013 10:59 PM)LooTa Wrote:  

I noticed in Italy that the toilets were much shallower than the ones at home, so I'd flush before wiping as I was paranoid about touching shit as i reached down to wipe. I did feel like a giant walking around in Italy, so maybe they just make kid size toilets for kid size people?

Did your balls hit the water?

Have had that happen a few times at various hotels here in the States and it is very disconcerting....

nar, they were getting drained on a regular basis, so they weren't hanging that low.