[apoclater]

Hey guys, I've been a long time anonymous browser and I'm finally making my first post.

I have 1 full month in Chicago with a corporate apartment to game freely. I say freely since I'm technically in a long-term relationship and would like to see if the game is really for me. Yes, I am willing to cheat on her for this amount of time to see what's all about but once I get back to my main city I'm considering it too risky.

Here are my goals:

• Read all 3 of Roosh's books (done)
• Complete 25-30 cold approaches
• Go out solo 6 out of 8 nights
• Get laid once in the month time period
  

I thought about online dating, but I've tried it before with mixed success and it's a bit risk with people I know potentially on the site.

Just a couple caveats/things about myself: I've been a long time game denialist--I've probably read 4-5 game books and have always felt that it came a little too "natural" to me and therefore I didn't need to put it into strict practice. I wish I had, but if I'm being honest game has been relatively natural to me since I was 13. I'm 24 and I have 9-10 (1 is debatable) notches at this point which is not bad but I wish I would have dedicated myself a little more to this earlier. Beyond this, I do the standard--weightlifting 3x a week, read great books, whiten teeth, etc etc. Keep in mind I work a corporate job so most of my cold approaches are going to come on nights going out.

So, anything I should change about this plan/expectations/goals? Got any tips? I've read all of the "How to go out alone" posts--that is definitely my biggest fear at this point.

At this point, just want to say thanks to the community as well.

[MikeinMKE]

Going out alone sucks I can't do it unless I'm I'm the perfect mood - but you're in a huge city where you don't know many if any people. Try day game in CHI you'll literally have 50 prime opportunities per day.

[MrXY]

Welcome to the forum. Starting out with a goal setting plan like this is a very good idea. I have a few thoughts :

Going out solo-recognize that the only obstacle to doing this is entirely in your own mind. Everyone is not looking at you and wondering why you are by yourself. I can't remember the last time a girl questioned why I was alone. However, since you are in the age demographic in which people do often go out in groups it's possible you may get this a few times. Read the thread here on this subject which has a lot of good snappy responses to this challenge.
Body language is key in going solo. If you don't yet know how to project confidence through your body language, give yourself a crash course. Whether you're walking in, standing around or sitting down in the venue, you should look like you own the place. Total comfort and confidence. Act like you are in your own living room. And talk to people- guys your age, older people, staff. Remember, you are a confident guy just out to relax and have a fun social experience.

Nights out- 2 nights a week is not enough to optimize your chances. I'm assuming you have weekends off and are planning to go out Friday and Saturday nights. I would add Thursday to that. Thursdays are often excellent nights for gaming- girls who are horny and don't want to wait for the weekend go out on Thursdays. You don't have to stay out too late- go out a bit earlier and plan to be home by midnight if you haven't picked up. If you're not too tired, consider trying Wednesday as well a couple of times. I'm sure Chicago has those papers and websites that have entertainment listings, check these and make yourself a list of ladies nights which are usually on Wed and Thurs-hit these venues first and see how they look.

Approaches- 30 approaches should be a minimum. 40 would be a better goal- that's 10 per week. If you are new to cold approaching, you just need to get a lot of approaches under your belt to get comfortable. If you're going out 2-3 times per week 10 is very doable.

Target selection- While doing sufficient approaches is critical, just as important is learning how to spot the right girls to approach. Read the thread here on recognizing the signs that a girl is DTF- it has lots of good tips. Saturday night I pulled a girl out of a bar and took her to a hotel within 90 minutes of opening her. How many approaches did it take me to get laid that night? One! Because I knew from observing her that she was highly likely to be DTF and was specifically attracted to me. Work on this skill and you will level up a lot faster.

Go Indirect you'll have a much better likelihood of success starting out with the indirect method

Openers Have a couple of canned openers for times when you have a brain freeze, but mostly just use situational openers. New gamers put way too much emphasis on openers as if they are some magic talisman that is going to make the girl drop her panties.They won't- your look, your body language, your manner of speaking and vibe are what matters at the start. I'll pretty much say anything that pops into my head depending on my mood and that may range from cocky to totally pedestrian. The key is just to break that invisible barrier and become a real person in the girls world. ( of course, avoid cheesy openers)

Go for 2 notches I feel that you should challenge yourself more and go for two, not one. You have a whole month- this gives you plenty of time for second and third dates which are much easier to get a notch on than an SNL.

Venue Switch Don't be reluctant to bail out of a venue if it's not looking good on a particular night- you may have to hit several to find a hot spot that night

Venue Reconnaissance in the first week, go to as many places that seem promising as you can. Bounce around and figure out which ones fit your style and attract the girls. Ask people when are the good nights for each venue and come up with a plan

Read Bang Mission Roosh just published an article here about going to a new city to get laid. If you haven't read it already, read it

Good luck!

[freshcream]

welcome!

Your plan sounds decent.

Can you define your game more?

[apoclater]

Thanks for the replies, all, especially Mr. XY. I think those are good recommendations, shoot for the stars and you'll land on the moon. Right now I'm not shooting high enough.

freshcream, I don't really know how I would describe my game (or what the "right" way to describe it is. I'm an above average looking guy, fairly tall (6'2) and I rock the superfuture look (slim raw denim, flannels/button ups and boat shoes/boots). I can sway and steer conversation with ease the challenge for me is just meeting girls, so I want to work on the actual approach.

[mr greenleaf]

(12-25-2012 09:08 AM)apoclater Wrote:  

Hey guys, I've been a long time anonymous browser and I'm finally making my first post.

I have 1 full month in Chicago with a corporate apartment to game freely. I say freely since I'm technically in a long-term relationship and would like to see if the game is really for me. Yes, I am willing to cheat on her for this amount of time to see what's all about but once I get back to my main city I'm considering it too risky.

Here are my goals:

• Read all 3 of Roosh's books (done)
• Complete 25-30 cold approaches
• Go out solo 6 out of 8 nights
• Get laid once in the month time period
  

I thought about online dating, but I've tried it before with mixed success and it's a bit risk with people I know potentially on the site.

Just a couple caveats/things about myself: I've been a long time game denialist--I've probably read 4-5 game books and have always felt that it came a little too "natural" to me and therefore I didn't need to put it into strict practice. I wish I had, but if I'm being honest game has been relatively natural to me since I was 13. I'm 24 and I have 9-10 (1 is debatable) notches at this point which is not bad but I wish I would have dedicated myself a little more to this earlier. Beyond this, I do the standard--weightlifting 3x a week, read great books, whiten teeth, etc etc. Keep in mind I work a corporate job so most of my cold approaches are going to come on nights going out.

So, anything I should change about this plan/expectations/goals? Got any tips? I've read all of the "How to go out alone" posts--that is definitely my biggest fear at this point.

At this point, just want to say thanks to the community as well.

I was just in Chicago for the first time a couple of weeks ago, great town to go out and party in and lots of opportunities to meet chicks IMO. I found the the happy hour scene to be pretty good as a lot of the downtown chicks roll in after work and drink it up before heading home or hitting the town.

So if you are rolling solo I would start there as many of the girls are relatively friendly and gave good vibes. I was there 4 nights and pulled 2 of 4.

Club scene was pretty great, lots of talent but if you are rolling solo its going to be more difficult as its loud and there are large groups of girls/guys hanging out. I'm a little biased since I dont have the best "club game" so I tend to stick to the lounges or more chill venues. Its a personal preference.

If you get sick of rolling solo I would recommend hanging out at the Trump Hotel (the bar on the 2nd floor, think its called rebar). There are a bunch of loaded traders and trust fund babies that own condos on the upper floors and they come down to the bar all the time and love to go out and blow cash. I actually think they have a drink minimum in the HOA dues so I wouldnt be surprised if you met some guys there that would be good wingman and show you all the hot spots. Hang out at the bar rail if you want to move this direction as they know the bar tenders and usually just sit there and gab.

The guys I met took me to club paris which has serious talent and skanks running around everywhere. Unfortunately I was a drunk bafoon that night and ended up headed home in a cab barely being able to speak english!

Good luck, I hope to head back there in the late spring for round deux!

[poutsara]

(12-25-2012 09:08 AM)apoclater Wrote:  

Hey guys, I've been a long time anonymous browser and I'm finally making my first post.

I have 1 full month in Chicago with a corporate apartment to game freely. ..
Here are my goals:

• Read all 3 of Roosh's books (done)
• Complete 25-30 cold approaches
• Go out solo 6 out of 8 nights
• Get laid once in the month time period
  

I thought about online dating, but I've tried it before with mixed success and it's a bit risk with people I know potentially on the site.
...
So, anything I should change about this plan/expectations/goals? Got any tips? I've read all of the "How to go out alone" posts--that is definitely my biggest fear at this point.

At this point, just want to say thanks to the community as well.

Good luck. Why is your goal 1? Make it 2 or 3 at least!

Look good - get some perfectly fitting clothes if you dont have them already.

Run day-game in addition to going out at night. Look good 100% of the time morning to night. Talk to any girl that get's your attention. If you can't think of something to say, bring up the fact you are new to the city and get her talking. Even if your only time to run day game is walking out of your apartment and commuting, still approach in the day.

Stock your apartment with good wine, drinks, have music ready for the swoop.

Online game: I'm a believer that you can do better by gaming in real life, but in this case since it's a new city, you can start a pipeline before you get there. I know you mentioned that you are wary of this. Why not look into it anyway.

(12-25-2012 09:08 AM)apoclater Wrote:  

I'm 24 and I have 9-10 (1 is debatable) notches at this point which is not bad but I wish I would have dedicated myself a little more to this earlier.

"Debatable" notches? What's that?

[Christian McQueen]

One notch? Damn let's up the ante. I would go for 2-3. I grew up in Chicago and that city is full of PRIME pussy. You'll see it on the streets, at Starbucks and definitely in the clubs. If it's still the same (haven't been there in a year), the clubs stay open until 5am and serve until then too. Plenty of time to get a girl.

Check out the club called The Underground. Billy Dec (local celeb/lawyer/mini-mogul) owns it and also Rockit Bar n Grill. The Rockit is more of a poppin bar 2 levels with pool etc but has plenty of talent.

One MAJOR difference I've always noticed between Chicago and most other major cities is that women will often approach ME. There tends to be some rather smart people in that badass city.

I say approach everything that catches your eye because it's a big city, you'll never see them again if you 'fail' and it's a numbers game.

[46.]

(12-25-2012 01:09 PM)apoclater Wrote:  

Thanks for the replies, all, especially Mr. XY. I think those are good recommendations, shoot for the stars and you'll land on the moon. Right now I'm not shooting high enough.

freshcream, I don't really know how I would describe my game (or what the "right" way to describe it is. I'm an above average looking guy, fairly tall (6'2) and I rock the superfuture look (slim raw denim, flannels/button ups and boat shoes/boots). I can sway and steer conversation with ease the challenge for me is just meeting girls, so I want to work on the actual approach.

Hey man, with this look, I would suggest you get lots of yo' appoaches in at the Museum of Contemporary Art on their weekly free days. It could be a great spot for you. I think they (US art chicks/foreign chicks) might dig your style. Lost of them tend to be pretty cool if you have anything interesting to say, so it can minimize awkwardness. MCA is a good winter spot. Also, don't forget to see the Chicago thread for more daygame spots. Good luck.