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coming to the kiss, on the lips goddamit
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coming to the kiss, on the lips goddamit

Went out tonight. 1st date. Fairly shy cerebral type girl. Intellectual logical type.

Went to a bar. We had a few drinks. I told a few interesting stories, and she was asking questions. Our conversation got going, it was a good interaction. I got body language - knee pointing at me. Some sort of indicators for me of attraction. We went to see a movie. I didn't touch her there, except for leaning over a couple of times, touched her leg, touch her arm briefly as I asked a question or made a comment.

We went to a bar after that and it was crowded, we ended up with almost full contact on one side of our bodies. Its funny, but I intuited we had contact long enough to get us ready perhaps for the next level.

Walked her to the car, ( I don't like to linger at this stage), and said goodnght, I went for the kiss, she turned her head - landed on the cheek.

Do I need to do a Lead up?

She saw I was after a bit more. It was awkward.

She's agreed to meet again in the next 3 days, and then on th e weekend for a party at her place. Her invite. That sounds promising for taking it elsewhere.

Any advice on touching? THis is my big obstacle. I came from a family that wasn't touchy feely at all and its all been a huge learning experience even with previous girlfriends. With a new person I tend to under-touch perhaps.

How important is hand holding? I felt perhaps, the touching was impersonal like if you sat next to a person on a bus. Anyway, this area is so fraught for me -any comments welcome.

I would have liked to kiss her properly tonight. Anyway, any advice for more experienced daters welcome.

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coming to the kiss, on the lips goddamit

The lead up is getting very close and standing there and see if she holds it. If she does then she wants to be kissed. I'm guessing you came in from a greater distance. No big deal to get the cheek though... not a deal killer in most cases IF she still likes you.

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Any advice on touching?

Focus on moves. I share a ton in Bang

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How important is hand holding?

Not important if you haven't kissed her yet.

If she shows up to the next date then the kiss will happen if you try again.
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