[soup]

Let's use this thread to talk about tricks we use and have been trying out that can allow us to guide conversations.

One that I've been deploying lately is when a girl asks me a question, I change the focus by asking a question about her.

via text:

Me: Sup
Her: hey whats up

Instead of answering her question, which is really a form of being submissive and will turn her off, I deflect with:

Me: What you up to (I try to phrase the question in such a way so that I don't have to use a question mark because they look needy)

Her: eating at xxxx. you?
Me: Are you going to work soon
Her: Sure am :/

etc.

Do you have a general approach/tactic that can help direct the conversation?

I think I read on Heartiste than an other one is to get her talking about how she feels about things: "How do you feel about that?"

[Deif]

Demonstrate that you desire her. Personally, I can't fake desire, so it needs to be organic. That tingly, predatory sensation that you feel in your chest which gives you iron-clad magnetism towards her. Girls will become attracted to you for the simple fact that you establish that linkage (unless you are butt-ugly).

I hesitate to talk in specifics about behavior because it varies with setting and your female counterpart. There have been girls who I could explicitly state my desire to, and that's what they wanted to hear, but I usually let my sexuality crouch conspicuously in the brush of formalities and "pretty lies" (word to Heartiste) before the graceful pounce that consumes her.

[Parlay44]

Don't have conversations over text. That's how women get maximum attention with minimum work.
Think about about it. She could be laying around unshowered for days in her pajamas soaking up attention
from multiple guys over text. You have no chance of sex by having a conversation over text.

Use texting to set up a date. Then control the conversation in person.

[Spike]

Pointing a gun at someone will normally keep you in control of the conversation.

Try it sometime. It worked wonders for me

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[soup]

(09-11-2012 02:41 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

Don't have conversations over text. That's how women get maximum attention with minimum work.
Think about about it. She could be laying around unshowered for days in her pajamas soaking up attention
from multiple guys over text. You have no chance of sex by having a conversation over text.

Use texting to set up a date. Then control the conversation in person.

These can work outside of text.

[rationalize_this]

This may go against everything roosh has said and what most people on the forum think, but the hottest girls i've banged i've had more extended banter over text than with the others. I don't know if I can accredit this to the amount of chemistry i created, or that was present, or the fact that to some extent you have to play into their attention trap to some degree until you bang them. After you bang, you can tone it down, and watch her chase/woo you. But trying to do purely logistics and set up dates without banter sometimes just doesn't work. Depends on the girl though. I've been experimenting with a new text game that I'll start a thread with and post results when I get a chance, so far its been pretty fruitful.

[XXL]

i simply dictate the rhythm and direct the convo if it gets all over the place. just cutting off the useless threads and changing the topic that way.

[Greek kamaki]

You control the conversation by speed.If you think faster than the girl you control the conversation.The point is to create illusion make the girl forget the environment.

[Aliblahba]

Conversation control:

You: Get me another beer.
Her: I think you've ha...BAM!!!!!!

   

Conversation controlled.

[megatron]

Your technique in your OP is pretty good, although ALWAYS refusing to answer her questions, like you appear to be doing in your post, gets old real soon. I tend to not answer at least 1/3 of her questions.

Heartiste has a bunch of really good text game articles. One thing I use of his is eliminating most punctuation and capitalization, which is what you seem to be doing too. it reaks of alpha and fuck-if-I-care attitude. "How are you?" seems beta. "how are you" is much more casual and alpha.

Plus, I try to follow the 2/3rds rule with texting: text back 2/3rds of the amount of words and emotion that she texts you. For example, last night my g/f texted me "I miss you! xoxo!"

I texted back. "Ditto. xo." The 2/3rds rule, also by Roissy, is great to use in virtually every interaction with girls, especially in LTRs.

[Giovonny]

(09-11-2012 02:20 PM)soup Wrote:  

Let's use this thread to talk about tricks we use and have been trying out that can allow us to guide conversations.

One that I've been deploying lately is when a girl asks me a question, I change the focus by asking a question about her.

via text:

Me: Sup
Her: hey whats up

Instead of answering her question, which is really a form of being submissive and will turn her off, I deflect with:

Me: What you up to (I try to phrase the question in such a way so that I don't have to use a question mark because they look needy)

Her: eating at xxxx. you?
Me: Are you going to work soon
Her: Sure am :/

etc.

Do you have a general approach/tactic that can help direct the conversation?

I think I read on Heartiste than an other one is to get her talking about how she feels about things: "How do you feel about that?"

This is not a conversation. This is a text exchange. Very different.

In person, you can control the conversation with subtle, little comments and body language. If you have a strong presence, you can control the conversation with little statements like - "whatever" or "are you serious?". She sees that you are not agreeing with her so she will take a different tone.

With texting, you can't be subtle. She cannot respond to your vibe, tone of voice, and facial expressions. With texting, you have to say things that get an emotional reaction from her. You can let her get bored.

I recently texted a girl - "I think you have daddy issues".

I did this because I knew it would get her hamster spinning. It would get her feeling a range of emotions. She texted me back right away and we had a text exchange. I cut the exchange short and said I had to go. I got her emotions going and then I cut her off and didn't get back to her til the next day.

I didn't want to be another guy texting - "hey whats up, how are you?"

I wanted to be different and make her emotional. She reacted strongly.

[rationalize_this]

(09-13-2012 07:19 PM)megatron Wrote:  

Your technique in your OP is pretty good, although ALWAYS refusing to answer her questions, like you appear to be doing in your post, gets old real soon. I tend to not answer at least 1/3 of her questions.

Heartiste has a bunch of really good text game articles. One thing I use of his is eliminating most punctuation and capitalization, which is what you seem to be doing too. it reaks of alpha and fuck-if-I-care attitude. "How are you?" seems beta. "how are you" is much more casual and alpha.

Plus, I try to follow the 2/3rds rule with texting: text back 2/3rds of the amount of words and emotion that she texts you. For example, last night my g/f texted me "I miss you! xoxo!"

I texted back. "Ditto. xo." The 2/3rds rule, also by Roissy, is great to use in virtually every interaction with girls, especially in LTRs.

"Ditto xo." is pretty beta.
Better response: "is that so"
"send me a pic show me what im missing"
"cute"
almost always i use these situations to elicit dirty pics from them which I then don't respond to for a few hours/ if its late at night the next day.

[Ramon Zarate]

I interrupt and cut threads like a pro. All my life I was told by socially skilled people that interrupting was rude and a not nice thing to do, and everyone would dislike me for it. Then I actually noticed that all these socially skilled people interrupted other people a shit ton!

When in a social mood I want to be the one in charge and directing constantly, and if I'm not I'll either interrupt or zone out and do something else. Sometimes I'm so self-absorbed won't even listen to a girl's reply because I'm just thinking of what I want to talk about/say next. For me the only alternative to this is be a huge chode who never gets to speak or impose myself on other people. I know which option I prefer.

[soup]

Another that you can do to reframe the conversation so that you aren't complying with her by answering her questions is to command her talk.

If she starts talking about something, you can say "go on" and, being a girl, she probably loves to talk, so she will comply. Consciously, she doesn't realize that she is following your orders. But, you are building a ladder of "yes"s, and compliance, and the overall effect of dominance will hit her hind brain. You can use "go on" over and over again.

And then when you stop asking her to "go on," she will actually shut-up.

[bliss]

(09-15-2012 07:54 PM)rationalize_this Wrote:  

(09-13-2012 07:19 PM)megatron Wrote:  

Your technique in your OP is pretty good, although ALWAYS refusing to answer her questions, like you appear to be doing in your post, gets old real soon. I tend to not answer at least 1/3 of her questions.

Heartiste has a bunch of really good text game articles. One thing I use of his is eliminating most punctuation and capitalization, which is what you seem to be doing too. it reaks of alpha and fuck-if-I-care attitude. "How are you?" seems beta. "how are you" is much more casual and alpha.

Plus, I try to follow the 2/3rds rule with texting: text back 2/3rds of the amount of words and emotion that she texts you. For example, last night my g/f texted me "I miss you! xoxo!"

I texted back. "Ditto. xo." The 2/3rds rule, also by Roissy, is great to use in virtually every interaction with girls, especially in LTRs.

"Ditto xo." is pretty beta.
Better response: "is that so"
"send me a pic show me what im missing"
"cute"
almost always i use these situations to elicit dirty pics from them which I then don't respond to for a few hours/ if its late at night the next day.

lol this whole alpha/beta thing is so dumb sometimes. you can say "ditto", hell you can say "i miss you too" as long as you follow it up sexually and phrase it right. you're not a robot.

if anything the last two of your responses sound forced and try-hard. if you really want to go that route just say "show me how much".