[MaceTyrell]

Raised by single mother.

Now in mid 20’s and actively trying to get tapped into more masculine energy to undo the programming. Even my best relationship fell apart due to my “maternal programming.”

More important goal for me now than a notch goal.

[hv123]

(08-20-2012 02:10 PM)JamesLouie Wrote:  

After reading much of the material on here i can't help but think that as a kid living in a single parent household raised by my mum that i've been brought up to become a beta-type male.
All the advice my mother gave to me on women was full of crap and the usual "Treat women with the utmost respect", "No sex before marriage" and so on.... basically in fewer words, become a simp and develop a personality that will let women walk all over you.

Even though i do see my dad from time to time his input has been minimal especially seeing as he's somewhat of a beta too with his dominant wife lol.

It's a shame my mum didn't let me hang around my uncles and i sort of see why from her point of view, there somewhat alpha males who are notorious for having game and being ladies men and with that im guessing my mother didn't want me around that, didn't want me around guy who are known to use do well with women and at the same time known for using them loosely, something she didn't want passing on to me.

Any fellas out there who feel like they've been raised to become a beta male through their circumstances of living in a single parent household being brought up by their mothers.

I'm not sure it's a deliberate plan to raise "betas", it's probably what happens in a lot of circumstances due to the environment and complete lack of alternative sources of information. I think kids start to work out their own personality and what's what fairly young if they are exposed to a decent amount of life experience.

The problem is deeper than the mother. A lot of young men have little to no contact with men at all or only men who work in an environment where you can't be very manly - i.e their teachers, who are mostly female anyway. Even male teachers probably aren't the types, certainly nowadays, who are part time lumberjacks with a T count off the scale are they.

A lot of kids get to adult age with very little experience of anything beyond their mothers and their schooling system. Once you hit the wider world it becomes quite shocking and frustrating as to why you are bottom of the societal rung and girls don't want to fiddle with your weanie very much.

Yes you probably were brought up to be a beta, either deliberately or through accident of circumstances, but it's far from impossible to break the code. "private man" succinctly summed up the basics in one sentence.

The UK is also a super feminised country, so that certainly doesn't help. I don't say betafied because it's more accurate to say feminised. It's very sad to see this country go from what it was to a country where offending people is the worst crime in the land.

I would add to private man's post - challenge yourself and do stuff that hurts.

[LatinaLova]

I was raised by my mom but far from what you describe OP. She gave me some "blue pilled" advise and still does, but I'm a heard headed mofo who filters lots of what I see/hear.
I think lots of it comes down to your inner personality regardless of upbringing, also your surrounding growing up. I grew up in an "alpha" type of neighborhood which had my bullied a few times but also taught me to defend myself as a kid.

[lunchmoney]

I know plenty of beta guys raised in a traditional family and plenty of alphas who were brought up in broken homes. It's all relative.

[Waqqle]

Never take dating advise from a female. Only take dating advice from guys who have already been successful in the way you wish to be.

[JakckieDanger437]

Almost always, yes. I think in rare cases you can have exceptions, but generally speaking, yes.

I know one kid for example, who was raised by a single mother. His father was somewhat in the picture, but he rarely ever saw him...

And yet, this kid literally grew up to become one of the most alpha guys I know. He's 18 and has already banged like half the chicks in his high school, and is consistently dating a train of pretty women (some are even in college). It baffles my mind, but I suppose anything is possible.

[for.petes.sake]

Most people are agreeing with the statement but I personally believe it is how the mother raise her son that will be determine how beta he will be. For example many black guys are raised by single mothers but tend to be the most alpha guys I have ever met. They will try to achieve everything on their own since their mother cannot spare any guidance. On the other hand most brown guys are raised with both parents in their lives but tend to be really beta. As a result of their mother's doing everything for them; brown guys become mama's boys. It is not always the case and i know brown guys who are very alpha but I feel like it all comes down to how the mother raises the son.

[Hegemon1984]

Not necessarily. I was raised by my single father who was inherently alpha. In a few cases when I was growing up, he had women pursing him - including an 18 year old female I had a crush on. She wanted my dad, but not me. It was shocking, especially for a 14 year old boy.

He came from a broken, poor family. The only white kid in his neighborhood. He was beat up daily and grew strong from it. Eventually, he became a medical doctor and owns numerous businesses.

However...

He was a strict and overbearing father. He shoved Christianity down our throats that I grew to resent it. He never taught me, his only son, to get women. He did, however, push me to get an education. Due to my childhood and my father's strict nature, I became an introverted beta for a majority of my life until I decided to move on my own.

After that, I became red pilled, decided to pursue my own dreams, and learn how to get women.

So to answer your question OP: No, you can have an alpha father... yet still somehow become beta.

[MKDAWUSS]

(02-05-2019 10:31 PM)Hegemon1984 Wrote:  

Not necessarily. I was raised by my single father who was inherently alpha. In a few cases when I was growing up, he had women pursing him - including an 18 year old female I had a crush on. She wanted my dad, but not me. It was shocking, especially for a 14 year old boy.

He came from a broken, poor family. The only white kid in his neighborhood. He was beat up daily and grew strong from it. Eventually, he became a medical doctor and owns numerous businesses.

However...

He was a strict and overbearing father. He shoved Christianity down our throats that I grew to resent it. He never taught me, his only son, to get women. He did, however, push me to get an education. Due to my childhood and my father's strict nature, I became an introverted beta for a majority of my life until I decided to move on my own.

After that, I became red pilled, decided to pursue my own dreams, and learn how to get women.

So to answer your question OP: No, you can have an alpha father... yet still somehow become beta.

Sounds like he may have seen you as competition.

[RatInTheWoods]

I wish I could have been that father figure in all you young blokes lives.

I would have red pilled you all and taught you game from an early age.

Come to think of it, I MAY WELL BE YOUR FATHER!