[Deb Auchery]

Yes getting rid of them is not that easy, it takes a heart of stone. I think it's best to get rd of them early, after you have had sex with them 3 or 4 times, unless they are something special.

Had a couple of stalker situations here, always seems to be the single mothers that demonstrate the most stalker-like behaviour with me

[chochemonger1]

(07-21-2012 10:53 AM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  

Yes getting rid of them is not that easy, it takes a heart of stone. I think it's best to get rd of them early, after you have had sex with them 3 or 4 times, unless they are something special.

Had a couple of stalker situations here, always seems to be the single mothers that demonstrate the most stalker-like behaviour with me

Just remember all the bullshit you have gone through, over the years, to bang certain women, especially the hotties. Then getting rid of them or ignoring them is a piece of cake.

[Deb Auchery]

(07-21-2012 11:01 AM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

(07-21-2012 10:53 AM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  

Yes getting rid of them is not that easy, it takes a heart of stone. I think it's best to get rd of them early, after you have had sex with them 3 or 4 times, unless they are something special.

Had a couple of stalker situations here, always seems to be the single mothers that demonstrate the most stalker-like behaviour with me

Just remember all the bullshit you have gone through, over the years, to bang certain women, especially the hotties. Then getting rid of them or ignoring them is a piece of cake.

I console myself with the fact that Ukrainian chicks are generally using Ukrainian dudes until something better turns up, which I have been told is 100% correct. Plus they are likely to have multiple boyfriends

[BeTravel]

I have experienced very different rates depending on the EE country.
Croatia,Hungary < 1/week
Czech Rep. & Slovakia - ~1/week
Poland: 1-2 /week
Ukraine: 3/4 week
Russia (Saint Petersburg) >5/week

Don't know whether SPB is easy compared to the rest of Russia. Both in Ukraine and Russia, I used vk.com to make contacts upfront. Real world vs vk.com bangs ia about 50/50
I don't speak any EE language, but when I first travelled to Russia and Ukraine I had the feeling that it was good that I was well travelled before in the rest of EE. The languague barrier, cyrillic + cultural differences might be quite strange for some people.

[JohnKreese]

(07-21-2012 10:49 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

I'm reading many stories here about plowing through numbers of girls but none of the aftermath. Please explain. Or am I the only guy that is getting stalked by multiple girls constantly. They don't just go away. Hookers do but regular girls?

Some actually do go away quietly on their own. Those ones are the keepers!

[Spike]

(07-21-2012 10:53 AM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  

Yes getting rid of them is not that easy, it takes a heart of stone. I think it's best to get rd of them early, after you have had sex with them 3 or 4 times, unless they are something special.

Had a couple of stalker situations here, always seems to be the single mothers that demonstrate the most stalker-like behaviour with me

I can't imagine you aren't getting your ass kicked on a regular basis. Russians and I guess Ukrainians too aren't the forgiving type.
I can't imagine someone who bangs and dumps over 20 new girls (as you claim) every month never has to deal with angry brothers +his buddies. 6.6 or not.

[Spike]

(07-21-2012 10:49 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

I'm reading many stories here about plowing through numbers of girls but none of the aftermath. Please explain. Or am I the only guy that is getting stalked by multiple girls constantly. They don't just go away. Hookers do but regular girls?

Trust me,you're not he only one. I had drama all over the world. Some girls just don't say goodbye and leave.

[el mechanico]

(07-21-2012 12:21 PM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

(07-21-2012 10:49 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

I'm reading many stories here about plowing through numbers of girls but none of the aftermath. Please explain. Or am I the only guy that is getting stalked by multiple girls constantly. They don't just go away. Hookers do but regular girls?

Trust me,you're not he only one. I had drama all over the world. Some girls just don't say goodbye and leave.

It's nonstop. Sure if you're numbers are one a month it's no big deal but when it's 1+ a week you're going to get shit. I had to throw a crying girl out of my house this morning because I didn't want her to spend the day. This is everyday shit here. They just don't go away.

[chochemonger1]

(07-21-2012 12:26 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(07-21-2012 12:21 PM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

(07-21-2012 10:49 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

I'm reading many stories here about plowing through numbers of girls but none of the aftermath. Please explain. Or am I the only guy that is getting stalked by multiple girls constantly. They don't just go away. Hookers do but regular girls?

Trust me,you're not he only one. I had drama all over the world. Some girls just don't say goodbye and leave.

It's nonstop. Sure if you're numbers are one a month it's no big deal but when it's 1+ a week you're going to get shit. I had to throw a crying girl out of my house this morning because I didn't want her to spend the day. This is everyday shit here. They just don't go away.

Have you tried banging them and coming in 1 minute or telling them you can't get it up. That usually helps a girl become less enchanted with you. I use this only when they still come back, after I have ignored them for weeks.

[chochemonger1]

Or in the worse case scenario just tell them you just found out you have herpes hehe. That will keep them away for good.

[Deb Auchery]

(07-21-2012 12:19 PM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

(07-21-2012 10:53 AM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  

Yes getting rid of them is not that easy, it takes a heart of stone. I think it's best to get rd of them early, after you have had sex with them 3 or 4 times, unless they are something special.

Had a couple of stalker situations here, always seems to be the single mothers that demonstrate the most stalker-like behaviour with me

I can't imagine you aren't getting your ass kicked on a regular basis. Russians and I guess Ukrainians too aren't the forgiving type.
I can't imagine someone who bangs and dumps over 20 new girls (as you claim) every month never has to deal with angry brothers +his buddies. 6.6 or not.

Exactly, you guess.

It sounds like you have no experience of Ukrainian men, so no point speculating. First of all guys in this part of the country are puny clowns, secondly a Uke guy isn't going to give a damn whether his sister was pumped and dumped by a foreigner, on the contrary he will be glad, they are nationalists.

[LostGringo]

(07-21-2012 05:06 AM)Vorkuta Wrote:  

On average one girl a week.

Thursday: See girl in club/street,think she is incredibly hot and number close. Can't believe I closed such a hottie.

Friday: Meet her in a bar and hit a club. Kiss her. Envision making her my GF and traveling the world together.

Saturday: Meet her in early evening,have dinner,hit bars,take her back to apartment and bang. Realize the second after I have come that I have no real interest in her beyond a fuck.

Sunday: Wake up fuck her all day. Already looking for ways to get rid of her which is hard
because she has believed the bullshit I told her on the first three meetings. Cowardly I don't have the balls to tell her to leave so I act as though I'm still into her.

Monday: Phone her in evening after ignoring all her calls,make feeble excuse about being in an accident. Invite her to bar,have one drink,make no effort to laugh at her jokes or entertain her and take her back to mine for sex which as now become much rougher and solely about me. Once finished go to usher her out whilst making up some shit about an early start and being busy the next day. Lie in bed thinking of best way to let her down nicely as to why i can't see her again. Decide to do it the decent way and intend to invite her for a drink.

Tuesday: Coward out by Ignoring all her calls and messages hoping she gets the message. By evening her messages are less frequent.

Wednesday: She sends a message saying "I thought you were different then the other men". Feel guilty for a minute and then relief.

Thursday: Whole process starts again.

Sounds like a damn good life to me; meet a beautiful woman, have a good meal, drink some wine, hit the town, drink some more, go home and fuck, wake up and fuck, send her on her way, avoid her - and do it again next week with another victim.

[Neo]

(07-21-2012 08:39 AM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

I think being a 6ft 6 inch foreigner does the trick. He is benefiting from the "Wilt Chamberlain" effect which works even more in certain countries. In Bucaramanga, Colombia I don't think I have seen someone taller than 6 ft 3. I'm pretty sure he would kill it over here too.

I'm curious how much height really has to do with it.

[WestCoast]

Ha! Deb is getting a lot of heat right now but I'd wager a ton of money call it 50% of my net income over a year that he runs "good looking dude game". I have little doubt based on his posting style and "game style" he is running this type of game. I am going to take a stab in the dark and this is how he remembers his pickups

1. Stand at bar facing out drink at side smile on face scoping area
2. Girl smiles at him
3. Deb walks over says one of the following "hey you from here i just moved", simply touches her hand/shoulder and they quickly move into a kind of physical banter, something along the lines of "have you been to XYS before (name of club)
4. Deb doesn't really remember (banters about whatever)
5. He realizes he can close number/ONS.

Here's the rub. He doesn't know what happens because the girl is so obsessed she will do anything to keep the conversation going. I have a buddy, again same one who had a girl come up to him and say, "I know you're a player but I want your dick in my mouth" who runs this game. Anyway, I would be more cautious about taking "game advise" from this but wouldn't be in a rush to hate on good looking guy game. What we should realize is HOW IMPORTANT it is to be GOOD LOOKING. MAX OUT YOUR LOOKS. If you are a 4 become a 6. Do everything.

With the said Deb i STRONGLY SUGGEST you go work at a high end BAR ASAP. Get on your first fucking flight to NYC get a bartending gig at a high end bar and make it rain. People there clear $150K a year to basically fuck girls because you're a good looking guy the girls will flock. Smart owners know this and hire HOT BARTENDER DUDES because they DRAG IN a HAREM of bitches. You're pretty much wasting your time out in EE, you could be fucking girls in NYC with ease and making way way way more money.

Just my 2c.

Deb am i roughly right on what goes down in pick ups? No hate just assuming thats kinda how you work. Also you really 36? If so absolutely go to NYC and go work at a high end bar you'll "look" like Mr. Big walking around the city.

[ElJefe]

Ha WC I don't know if you're joking but that is EXACTLY the reasoning my ex-manager used in his places. some of my ex-colleagues get laid like rockstars.

Bartending is just a shitty job if you have a brain.

[Vicious]

(07-21-2012 10:49 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

I'm reading many stories here about plowing through numbers of girls but none of the aftermath. Please explain. Or am I the only guy that is getting stalked by multiple girls constantly. They don't just go away. Hookers do but regular girls?

I find this is usually all in the layup. If you have the same routine as Vorkuta above you are going to create quite a few stalkers who keeps believing.

[Architekt]

(07-21-2012 05:06 AM)Vorkuta Wrote:  

On average one girl a week.

Thursday: See girl in club/street,think she is incredibly hot and number close. Can't believe I closed such a hottie.

Friday: Meet her in a bar and hit a club. Kiss her. Envision making her my GF and traveling the world together.

Sounds like you've got your shit down pact, but.... Was that beta?

[Deb Auchery]

(07-21-2012 09:03 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  

Ha! Deb is getting a lot of heat right now but I'd wager a ton of money call it 50% of my net income over a year that he runs "good looking dude game". I have little doubt based on his posting style and "game style" he is running this type of game. I am going to take a stab in the dark and this is how he remembers his pickups

1. Stand at bar facing out drink at side smile on face scoping area
2. Girl smiles at him
3. Deb walks over says one of the following "hey you from here i just moved", simply touches her hand/shoulder and they quickly move into a kind of physical banter, something along the lines of "have you been to XYS before (name of club)
4. Deb doesn't really remember (banters about whatever)
5. He realizes he can close number/ONS.

Here's the rub. He doesn't know what happens because the girl is so obsessed she will do anything to keep the conversation going. I have a buddy, again same one who had a girl come up to him and say, "I know you're a player but I want your dick in my mouth" who runs this game. Anyway, I would be more cautious about taking "game advise" from this but wouldn't be in a rush to hate on good looking guy game. What we should realize is HOW IMPORTANT it is to be GOOD LOOKING. MAX OUT YOUR LOOKS. If you are a 4 become a 6. Do everything.

With the said Deb i STRONGLY SUGGEST you go work at a high end BAR ASAP. Get on your first fucking flight to NYC get a bartending gig at a high end bar and make it rain. People there clear $150K a year to basically fuck girls because you're a good looking guy the girls will flock. Smart owners know this and hire HOT BARTENDER DUDES because they DRAG IN a HAREM of bitches. You're pretty much wasting your time out in EE, you could be fucking girls in NYC with ease and making way way way more money.

Just my 2c.

Deb am i roughly right on what goes down in pick ups? No hate just assuming thats kinda how you work. Also you really 36? If so absolutely go to NYC and go work at a high end bar you'll "look" like Mr. Big walking around the city.

Well we must remember that I am in Ukraine, in this country game is ridiculously easy if you tick the right boxes. In London I do pretty well for myself, but nowhere near on the same scale as here. In Lvov, getting a phone number is child's play, most phone numbers I take I don't even call.

My typical pick up is just simple bullshit that would not work in the west, most of them do not speak perfect English. It doesn't matter what you say here, the girl just wants to talk to you. Often it's just "Hey what's your name?"
We also have to remember just how ghastly the Ukrainian men are in every way, they do not see guys that look like me very often, height, med looks.

I was recently in Belgrade, I ran very little day game there because the girls are snooty as fuck and I would mostly get the cheek. A 6"6' good looking dude is nothing special there, and they often assume that I am pretending to be English.

With regard to physical looks, i'm very tall, but not BIG. An Ectomorph, currently 91Kgs.

Despite living in a poor ass country i'm pretty ambitious, I have an online business with an income that I could be comfortable with anywhere in the world.

[The Duke]

My chances of getting laid in Ukraine are similar to home (USA), however the quality of girl i bang is higher in Ukraine. As others have noted, there is less chance of SNL in Ukraine.

[Greek kamaki]

It is about competition.It is a different thing to be surrounded by tall muscular good looking Serbs with alpha body posture and a different to compete against impoverished Ukrainian guys who mostly cannot even afford to go to the disco.If you are used to tough and dangerous environment like Serbia,Greece etc Ukraine is a child's play because there is no counterbalance.

[Deb Auchery]

(07-22-2012 02:23 AM)The Duke Wrote:  

My chances of getting laid in Ukraine are similar to home (USA), however the quality of girl i bang is higher in Ukraine. As others have noted, there is less chance of SNL in Ukraine.

Yes there is less chance of SNL here, although I have been doing well in this regard lately. The sluttiest girls in Lvov nightclubs seem to be perched at the bar.

Another day pissing down with rain here, will go to Odessa this week if I can get a train ticket. I think the chances of SNL there are significantly higher.

[Greek kamaki]

For example a guy who operates in a Serbian environment like this:

Is called to an ukrainian environment like this.

You see the difference in ukranian girls attitude.How much softer,smoother they are compared to Serbian ones.Also the lower level of energy and the obviously worse appearance of the local guys compared to Serbian.The Ukrainian girls give mostly the impression that you can buy them which is not true for Serbian ones who have natural pride.

[Deb Auchery]

Haha I think I would prefer to be at the second party

[Perseus]

(07-21-2012 09:03 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  

Ha! Deb is getting a lot of heat right now but I'd wager a ton of money call it 50% of my net income over a year that he runs "good looking dude game". I have little doubt based on his posting style and "game style" he is running this type of game. I am going to take a stab in the dark and this is how he remembers his pickups

1. Stand at bar facing out drink at side smile on face scoping area
2. Girl smiles at him
3. Deb walks over says one of the following "hey you from here i just moved", simply touches her hand/shoulder and they quickly move into a kind of physical banter, something along the lines of "have you been to XYS before (name of club)
4. Deb doesn't really remember (banters about whatever)
5. He realizes he can close number/ONS.

Here's the rub. He doesn't know what happens because the girl is so obsessed she will do anything to keep the conversation going. I have a buddy, again same one who had a girl come up to him and say, "I know you're a player but I want your dick in my mouth" who runs this game. Anyway, I would be more cautious about taking "game advise" from this but wouldn't be in a rush to hate on good looking guy game. What we should realize is HOW IMPORTANT it is to be GOOD LOOKING. MAX OUT YOUR LOOKS. If you are a 4 become a 6. Do everything.

With the said Deb i STRONGLY SUGGEST you go work at a high end BAR ASAP. Get on your first fucking flight to NYC get a bartending gig at a high end bar and make it rain. People there clear $150K a year to basically fuck girls because you're a good looking guy the girls will flock. Smart owners know this and hire HOT BARTENDER DUDES because they DRAG IN a HAREM of bitches. You're pretty much wasting your time out in EE, you could be fucking girls in NYC with ease and making way way way more money.

Just my 2c.

Deb am i roughly right on what goes down in pick ups? No hate just assuming thats kinda how you work. Also you really 36? If so absolutely go to NYC and go work at a high end bar you'll "look" like Mr. Big walking around the city.

Man that's the kind of game i run most of the time in Toronto. It works 2/5 times, go figure! its Feminazi occupied Toronto after all.

I have a good feeling i'll be doing a 4/5 to 5/5 in a Ukrainian city, although i'm not Serb or Croatian looking, but i'm 6'3 and not an ectomorph like Deb, but i won't get my hopes up till i get there.

This thread actually got my hopes up about my upcoming trip to Ukraine.

Also good to know that Ukrainian guys don't care much about foreigners banging their girls. Although i doubt they would mess with a bouncer-sized dude......unless they carry concealed weapons in which case um disarm with a 60% chance of fatal injury, OR run like hell, but i digress.

Deb watch out! you've got major competition coming in

[Deb Auchery]

Cool Perseus, well I could do with a wingman, all of my friends have girlfriends.

Yes men in W Ukraine at least are pretty passive, you can approach a table of girls with guys and they will let you go about your work without any resistance. Chances are you will be bigger than them anyway, W Ukrainians are usually very skinny and weak or fat and docile.

At the end of the day I think their attitude is that there are lots of girls to go round, so they don't care if you take some of their girls. They also do not pursue SNL very hard, they know it will come to them, if not they have many others on the back burner,

I cannot speak for the rest of the Ukraine, as I have only been to Kiev. I suppose the further east you go the more Russian they are, and Russians are not as passive