Quote: (07-13-2012 02:05 AM)Spartan Wrote:
Also, perhaps I should try some different lines?
I like the pet shop one, but I've worn it out. I thought once I had a decent location and line I could just repeat it forever until I met somone...guess my city is too small for that.
Maybe some situational openers would work?(ex is this the place they hold concerts each year? do you know when the next festival is coming up?)
ok since here's my little simple innocent step by step method that will never get you a bad rep
principles:
- stay in one location for short period of time like
WestCoast mentioned
- be empathic. street approach is maybe normal to you but not to the girl. be forgiving. make her comfortable talking to a stranger and let her warm up for few seconds.
- "let's see if she's cool" frame wins. you talk to a girl because you want to see who she is, you have no expectations, you can end it at any point, your goal is mutual attraction (not pity phone number). with that attitude all the right things are subcommunicated with every little things you say/do. the way i see it is like.. casual curiosity > personal interest > excitement > sexual turn on
step by step:
the approach
basically use the moment as material for an opener. there's always something, from their clothes, to their smile. situational stuff only. go up and let them know that you talk to them out of curiosity because something about them suddenly caught your attention. so make it about the girl. at no point should a girl feel that what you say is totally impersonal or somehow pre-planned. it means approaching with commenting something specific about the girl or asking question about something about her you noticed. but nothing sleazy and sexual. a comment about her eyes is not sexual. she needs to feel comfortable first to be interested later.
1st ex:
you: hey.. are you brazilian? [curiosity & something personal about her]
if she says: yes
you: that's cool, i love brazilian girls's temper, i find it very exciting blablba [interest]
if she says no:
you: thank god, i dated once brazilian girl, i actually hoped you're not one, so where you're from you have this feminine look blablaba.. [interest and compliment]
2nd ex:
you: i wouldn't eat that it looks awful [curiosity]
her: yeah i know but i'm hungry
you: are you one of these tall slim girls who can eat and eat shit food and never get fat? [interest]
her: i don't know i never thought about it..
you: i love you already : ) i knew few girls like that and always stay fit it's amazing [flirt]
her: hahaha blabla
leading
the convo progresses. from now on you simply work off of whatever the girl gives you. use whatever she responds with to make another comment/statement/question. keep it light. it started from slight curiosity and now it escalates to expressing interest (or not). she feels you carry on the interaction because you like what she says not cause you're sold on her already. it's natural, you like her you move forward. she's lame you leave.
number
when it goes well and you want her number make it relevant. take her number because it has something to do with what you're talking about now. so first let her talk about what she likes to do in free time and suggest you both should go this someday and then exchange numbers. it's effective cause she feels there is a valid reason behind it (beyond sex).
doing it this way you won't be labelled as 'that guy' who asks the same shit over and over again plenty of women. frankly, notice that the true pickup doesn't really start until you express your interest somehow. asking a girl about directions etc the convo is very flat, there's no spark, nothing. even though every girl know why a random guy starts talking to her, the man-women communication is not set, it's not official. we can't expect a girl to be eager to meet us again just because we talked about her dress the whole time without letting her know we like her, directly or indirectly.
Quote: (07-13-2012 10:20 AM)Spartan Wrote:
Aren't you supposed to hit on everything that walks? How else do you improve if not by opening tons of sets?
i think better question is 'what is your sexlife?' hundreds of flaky phone numbers or meaningless interactions is not really a sign of improvement in my books. i prefer more pragmatic approach. quality > quantity.
if i meet only 6 hot girls during whole weekend, have chemistry with 2 of them and they're cool hot feminine nymphos, i'm happy. and then when i go out next time, even though that's only 2 hotties in my life, my nuts are empty so i screen super hard. this way by screening i spend most of my time with my type of girls (cute tall feminine) instead of interacting with many many girls i don't really like. time management for the win.
therefore statistics/batting average/closing ratios are irrelevant to me and frankly very misleading in my case because on paper it looks like i close like a motherfucker but that's the result of me screening hard from the get go so when i focus on a girl it's highly probably we will bang