[thegmanifesto]

(12-27-2012 03:41 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  

(12-25-2012 10:11 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(12-23-2012 09:18 PM)Menace Wrote:  

I was just in Miami Beach for a short trip and I noticed it has all these little hotels on the street parallel to Ocean Blvd...Collins Dr I think. What's up with those? They all seemed to have little bars...are any of them good places for women?

I think I know what you are talking about.

Can you remember the names of any?

If they are what I am thinking about, they are really hit or miss.

They are completely dependent on tourists, so they are obviously a mixed bag. Could be Red State dorks, German dorks, or Estonian Model girls etc.

Too "crap shooty" for my liking.

I have to do high percentage plays these days.

Unless one of them is super good that I don't know about.

Miami experts chime in?

I'm pretty sure Menace is referring to the restaurant/bars located on Ocean Drive which are attached to hotels. They start around 6th Street and Ocean Drive and continue as you head north. Some of these places are a Fish Called Avalon, Sea Cafe, and Kitchen. I cannot really say that one is better than another. I used to avoid these places. What I now do is start out at the TGI Fridays which is located at 5th and Ocean Drive and take a tour by walking north on Ocean Drive. If girls are sitting on the tables on the sidewalk, they are easy to approach. The last time I was in Miami, I met a reality "star" by doing that. I think she was interested in me, but I didn't get the notch, because people kept bothering her by walking up and taking pictures and asking for autographs. I don't have a lot of patience with that stuff. If a place has no talent, I just keep walking. If a place were completely filled with talent, which I have never experienced in those places, I would sit down and order food or drinks. I never blindly go to those places and sit down because I may be wasting a great amount of time and money and there is no guarantee that any decent girls will walk into the place. Those places are pretty expensive.

Yeah, I think he means Collins, but it's really neither here nor there.

The same strategy applies. And yours is a good one.

Like you said, I would never make one of those a destination. Those places are more for the "first time in South Beach" person.

(Menace, you want to offer up some clarity?)

Quote:

Those places are pretty expensive.

I would call them more "overpriced". The food sucks on Ocean. I avoid it like Tuberculosis.

[Menace]

(12-27-2012 04:35 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(Menace, you want to offer up some clarity?)

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Those places are pretty expensive.

I would call them more "overpriced". The food sucks on Ocean. I avoid it like Tuberculosis.

G,

I drove down to Miami from Boca (remember my folks bought a place there? well now I'm sort of putting it to use). I was with my LTR so it wasn't really for gaming purposes and I didn't have any destination planned aside from showing her South Beach. This was my second time in Miami. Lots of good looking people (men & women) and small dogs.

BTW if you want to find Asians, head straight to the beach. They are all there taking stupid photos of themselves.

I saw a number of places that might be good for day game, including this little walkable-only area near Lincoln Ave & 17th (across from the H&M). In fact, I would say this time of year is perfect for day game there because it's not too hot and you won't be sweating up a storm.

I didn't want to eat on Ocean Drive for obvious reasons, so I walked up Collins starting at about 13th St. going north. I can't off-hand remember the names of the places, but they had a sort of Miami trendy look if you know what I mean. I'm sure they're on Yelp. Most of the hotels had a small lobby and bar, but since this was about ~6 pm they were empty. That's why I was curious about them, sounds like basically they might be worth a scan to see if anything good is there, but not destinations for talent.

BTW I ended up eating at this small Italian place called Amami. Has a nice modern & cosy interior, would probably make a decent place to bring a girl post-bang. They had tiramisu made with Nutella...tasty.

[Vitriol]

Day game is probably the only reliable way to get girls on South Beach, the night venues are sausage fests compared to venues in Miami that get more of a local crowd.

Many of the night venues on South Beach are filled with packs of male British or Canadian tourists wearing fucking matching clothes.

[Fujiwara]

(12-27-2012 08:33 PM)Vitriol Wrote:  

Day game is probably the only reliable way to get girls on South Beach, the night venues are sausage fests compared to venues in Miami that get more of a local crowd.

Many of the night venues on South Beach are filled with packs of male British or Canadian tourists wearing fucking matching clothes.

My thoughts exactly.

Want one of my favourite places in South Beach? Try the Whole Foods Market. Try walking or taking a bus to WFM for maximum opportunity for human face-to-face interaction.

It could be a model agency.

Plus you can get all that hippie-sh*t food that's damn good for your body.

Last night I went to the Whole Foods Market in Newport Beach and I was wishing I was in my home Whole Foods - all the girls here in Newport Beach are wearing that stupid OC cool weather uniform... jeans tucked into their flat boots and some stupid ski-looking jacket.

So yeah, try buying your groceries there. Thank me later

[thegmanifesto]

(12-27-2012 10:33 PM)Fujiwara Wrote:  

(12-27-2012 08:33 PM)Vitriol Wrote:  

Day game is probably the only reliable way to get girls on South Beach, the night venues are sausage fests compared to venues in Miami that get more of a local crowd.

Many of the night venues on South Beach are filled with packs of male British or Canadian tourists wearing fucking matching clothes.

My thoughts exactly.

Want one of my favourite places in South Beach? Try the Whole Foods Market. Try walking or taking a bus to WFM for maximum opportunity for human face-to-face interaction.

It could be a model agency.

Plus you can get all that hippie-sh*t food that's damn good for your body.

Last night I went to the Whole Foods Market in Newport Beach and I was wishing I was in my home Whole Foods - all the girls here in Newport Beach are wearing that stupid OC cool weather uniform... jeans tucked into their flat boots and some stupid ski-looking jacket.

So yeah, try buying your groceries there. Thank me later

Miami Beach destroys Newport Beach.

Not even close.

And Newport is one of the best places on the West Coast bar none.

I disagree that nightgame is bad in South Beach.

You can't hit up the tourist spots.

You have to come more "Restaurant Game" (which I seem to be one of the few on the forum to use this), and high end spots.

And you have to Roll Heavy.

Anyone who says nightgame in Miami Beach is hard is guilty of at least one of these for sure: Top Ten South Beach Miami Mistakes

Also, I think Publix might destroy the Whole foods.

[thegmanifesto]

(12-27-2012 08:15 PM)Menace Wrote:  

I didn't want to eat on Ocean Drive for obvious reasons, so I walked up Collins starting at about 13th St. going north. I can't off-hand remember the names of the places, but they had a sort of Miami trendy look if you know what I mean. I'm sure they're on Yelp. Most of the hotels had a small lobby and bar, but since this was about ~6 pm they were empty. That's why I was curious about them, sounds like basically they might be worth a scan to see if anything good is there, but not destinations for talent.

Yeah, that is exactly what I thought.

Like I said before, those places are totally dependent on the tourists staying in that hotel at that certain time.

So it will be all across the map. Literally and figuratively.

[kenny_powers]

(12-22-2012 12:09 PM)G Trooper Wrote:  

I almost forgot...

Miami has some top notch strip clubs.

My favorite is BT's in South Miami. It's a small venue and at the right time get stacked with smooking strippers and bar girls. The drinks are cheap and the best time to go is at 10pm. The drunk guys roll in at midnight, which is your cue to bounce.

Tootsie's is the most famous. Its kind of like a factory and there are 100 to 200 strippers there. Most of the girls are 6's, 7's, and 8's. There are a handful of 9's too.

Scarlett's is legit. It a medium sized joint with 30-40 strippers, quality is alright to pretty good and they have a mix of latina's, black chicks, and a couple white girls.

There are easily two dozen more, which i'm going to have to report back on.

I have been to EVERY SINGLE strip club in the 305 and 954. It's part of the routine when you live there.

[kenny_powers]

(06-19-2012 04:13 PM)_DC_ Wrote:  

I've already read the Miami threads and wouldn't mind starting a new one. Is Mixx still gone?

I'm moving from DC to Sobe in a few days. I'm very excited, but the amount of conflicting information I hear is confusing me. I either hear 1) although the women are top notch, the competition is intense or 2) a tall good-looking white guy can shoot latinos in a barrel.

Personally, I've visited Miami and Ft. Laud several times and I honestly feel from multiple fronts DC and especially Arlington has much more competition. And this is not even considering ratios or available hot women.

Anybody make a similar move from the DMV to paradise?

I made the reverse move about 6 months ago. I'm actually doing really well in DC / NOVA but it is a hell of a lot more work than SoFla.

[thegmanifesto]

(01-02-2013 01:09 AM)kenny_powers Wrote:  

(12-22-2012 12:09 PM)G Trooper Wrote:  

I almost forgot...

Miami has some top notch strip clubs.

My favorite is BT's in South Miami. It's a small venue and at the right time get stacked with smooking strippers and bar girls. The drinks are cheap and the best time to go is at 10pm. The drunk guys roll in at midnight, which is your cue to bounce.

Tootsie's is the most famous. Its kind of like a factory and there are 100 to 200 strippers there. Most of the girls are 6's, 7's, and 8's. There are a handful of 9's too.

Scarlett's is legit. It a medium sized joint with 30-40 strippers, quality is alright to pretty good and they have a mix of latina's, black chicks, and a couple white girls.

There are easily two dozen more, which i'm going to have to report back on.

I have been to EVERY SINGLE strip club in the 305 and 954. It's part of the routine when you live there.

Which do you like the most?

2nd most?

Why?

[rationalize_this]

BT's in South Miami I know well. My neighbor when I was living in South Miami actually was a stripper there.

She used to bring her friends back for "slumber parties" after hours. Never seen that much coke in my life.

BT's is a whore house. Almost every girl there does P4P for 200-400. The "Champagne Room" is just you fucking the girl in a private room. Easy to pull from there however. Lots of single moms, older used up women. Mediocre talent.


Scarlett's is #1 in my opinion. Place is more like a club than a strip club. I've pulled multiple chicks from here (not strippers), and brought multiple chicks there. Almost every girl has that innate curiousness in strippers anyways.
Talent is better than BT's with a lot of fresh off the boat latinas. Spanish is a MUST HAVE.

Tootsie's I've rarely been. But its essentially a converted Sam's Club. Strip club warehouse. There are actually 3-4 strip clubs inside that place. More quantity, perhaps less quality.

[thegmanifesto]

(01-02-2013 05:57 PM)rationalize_this Wrote:  

BT's in South Miami I know well. My neighbor when I was living in South Miami actually was a stripper there.

She used to bring her friends back for "slumber parties" after hours. Never seen that much coke in my life.

BT's is a whore house. Almost every girl there does P4P for 200-400. The "Champagne Room" is just you fucking the girl in a private room. Easy to pull from there however. Lots of single moms, older used up women. Mediocre talent.


Scarlett's is #1 in my opinion. Place is more like a club than a strip club. I've pulled multiple chicks from here (not strippers), and brought multiple chicks there. Almost every girl has that innate curiousness in strippers anyways.
Talent is better than BT's with a lot of fresh off the boat latinas. Spanish is a MUST HAVE.

Tootsie's I've rarely been. But its essentially a converted Sam's Club. Strip club warehouse. There are actually 3-4 strip clubs inside that place. More quantity, perhaps less quality.

Isn't there one in Downtown? Solid Gold or something, across the bridge from South Beach?

[rationalize_this]

(01-02-2013 06:00 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(01-02-2013 05:57 PM)rationalize_this Wrote:  

BT's in South Miami I know well. My neighbor when I was living in South Miami actually was a stripper there.

She used to bring her friends back for "slumber parties" after hours. Never seen that much coke in my life.

BT's is a whore house. Almost every girl there does P4P for 200-400. The "Champagne Room" is just you fucking the girl in a private room. Easy to pull from there however. Lots of single moms, older used up women. Mediocre talent.


Scarlett's is #1 in my opinion. Place is more like a club than a strip club. I've pulled multiple chicks from here (not strippers), and brought multiple chicks there. Almost every girl has that innate curiousness in strippers anyways.
Talent is better than BT's with a lot of fresh off the boat latinas. Spanish is a MUST HAVE.

Tootsie's I've rarely been. But its essentially a converted Sam's Club. Strip club warehouse. There are actually 3-4 strip clubs inside that place. More quantity, perhaps less quality.

Isn't there one in Downtown? Solid Gold or something, across the bridge from South Beach?

Actually never heard of it or never been.

Strip clubs are a rare occasion for me lately.

There isn't much reason for me to go that far when I have my logistics down pat...

[G Trooper]

(01-02-2013 06:00 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Isn't there one in Downtown? Solid Gold or something, across the bridge from South Beach?

Yeah there's one downtown. And there's one more north (aventura/north miami beach).

The one in aventura blew when I went there a year ago. There were only 3 girls, I was in shock...apparently there were new owners at the time.

Now the Solid Gold in downtown, I read some reviews that its in the hood of downtown. I'll have to field test this venue in a week or 2.

[kenny_powers]

(01-02-2013 07:07 PM)G Trooper Wrote:  

(01-02-2013 06:00 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Isn't there one in Downtown? Solid Gold or something, across the bridge from South Beach?

Yeah there's one downtown. And there's one more north (aventura/north miami beach).

The one in aventura blew when I went there a year ago. There were only 3 girls, I was in shock...apparently there were new owners at the time.

Now the Solid Gold in downtown, I read some reviews that its in the hood of downtown. I'll have to field test this venue in a week or 2.

Nothing in Aventura. You are thinking of Deans Gold in N. Miami Beach at US1 and 163rd. It is hot and miss. Last time we were there it was fucking off the chain with talent - best I had seen in Miami since pre-recession. Warning : lots of 5.0 action and DUI central around there. You need a DD or a cab.

There was a place called Beach House (formerly Thee Doll House) in Sunny Isles Beach (163rd and A1A). That was a shithole neighborhood bar for us. Go watch the game with titties in your face. Sopranos style Bada Bing Bada Boom! Mostly Russian. I think he got shut down for prostitution or drugs or both. Might be open again. You know how that industry is.

[kenny_powers]

(01-02-2013 06:02 PM)rationalize_this Wrote:  

(01-02-2013 06:00 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(01-02-2013 05:57 PM)rationalize_this Wrote:  

BT's in South Miami I know well. My neighbor when I was living in South Miami actually was a stripper there.

She used to bring her friends back for "slumber parties" after hours. Never seen that much coke in my life.

BT's is a whore house. Almost every girl there does P4P for 200-400. The "Champagne Room" is just you fucking the girl in a private room. Easy to pull from there however. Lots of single moms, older used up women. Mediocre talent.


Scarlett's is #1 in my opinion. Place is more like a club than a strip club. I've pulled multiple chicks from here (not strippers), and brought multiple chicks there. Almost every girl has that innate curiousness in strippers anyways.
Talent is better than BT's with a lot of fresh off the boat latinas. Spanish is a MUST HAVE.

Tootsie's I've rarely been. But its essentially a converted Sam's Club. Strip club warehouse. There are actually 3-4 strip clubs inside that place. More quantity, perhaps less quality.

Isn't there one in Downtown? Solid Gold or something, across the bridge from South Beach?

Actually never heard of it or never been.

Strip clubs are a rare occasion for me lately.

There isn't much reason for me to go that far when I have my logistics down pat...

Scarlett's peaked in 2005-2006. It was all Russian and party central. As Rationalize said, it is now more of a club and IMO a waste of money. I too have pulled civilian women out of there. Best thing is you can walk out at 7:00 am Saturday and the sun is shining.

On the other side of US1 from Tootsies is Cheetah Hallandale. Lower class environment. Got closed down for P4P and blow. They opened again about 18 months ago and it is business as usual there.

Tootsies is a brothel. It gets low class as fuck after midnight. I suggest going around 6 PM on a Friday. You will have access to the full buffet of talent and your pick of the litter.

[Johnnyfuego]

Cheetahs hallendale ull like it

[jariel]

This pic is from a spot I go to called Well Lounge. This is a constant scene in Miami clubs, especially ones that play latin music, girls dancing with each other, because they have no choice.

Latin nights/clubs always have 2:1 ratios of women to men, and a lot of the men that do go can't dance very well.

Get some freakin salsa/bachata lessons in, and hit these spots up, you'll meet mostly very attractive women who love to dance.

[thegmanifesto]

(01-02-2013 11:01 PM)jariel Wrote:  



This pic is from a spot I go to called Well Lounge. This is a constant scene in Miami clubs, especially ones that play latin music, girls dancing with each other, because they have no choice.

Latin nights/clubs always have 2:1 ratios of women to men, and a lot of the men that do go can't dance very well.

Get some freakin salsa/bachata lessons in, and hit these spots up, you'll meet mostly very attractive women who love to dance.

What night is best at Well?

[Merenguero]

(01-02-2013 07:40 PM)kenny_powers Wrote:  

Tootsies is a brothel. It gets low class as fuck after midnight. [/b]I suggest going around 6 PM on a Friday. You will have access to the full buffet of talent and your pick of the litter.

Do you know what time the girls who are there at 6:00 P.M. get off? Is there any shift change between 6:00 P.M. and the time the place closes?

[thegmanifesto]

(01-03-2013 02:21 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  

(01-02-2013 07:40 PM)kenny_powers Wrote:  

Tootsies is a brothel. It gets low class as fuck after midnight. [/b]I suggest going around 6 PM on a Friday. You will have access to the full buffet of talent and your pick of the litter.

Do you know what time the girls who are there at 6:00 P.M. get off? Is there any shift change between 6:00 P.M. and the time the place closes?

Veteran comment.

It is all about the shift changes.

I was going to ask the same question.

[Merenguero]

Does anyone have any information on the Catalina Hotel in South Beach? I know there are two pools there, one of which is on the rooftop. Is there any talent at the pools? Do both pools have bars? Do you have to reserve and/or pay for the cabanas or chairs at the pools?

[kenny_powers]

(01-03-2013 03:45 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  

Does anyone have any information on the Catalina Hotel in South Beach? I know there are two pools there, one of which is on the rooftop. Is there any talent at the pools? Do both pools have bars? Do you have to reserve and/or pay for the cabanas or chairs at the pools?

The Catalina? They had a cheesy "reality" show on the CW network this year. Looked pretty lame to me. I'd rather spend $ and stay at the Delano and use the pool there. No question about talent.

[kenny_powers]

(01-03-2013 02:21 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  

(01-02-2013 07:40 PM)kenny_powers Wrote:  

Tootsies is a brothel. It gets low class as fuck after midnight. [/b]I suggest going around 6 PM on a Friday. You will have access to the full buffet of talent and your pick of the litter.

Do you know what time the girls who are there at 6:00 P.M. get off? Is there any shift change between 6:00 P.M. and the time the place closes?

It is a huge place with probably a couple of hundred girls working over the weekend. I think they are open until 4 or 5 AM. The staff is ebb and flow...all different hours.

Go in wearing a suit for happy hour. Those girls will love you.

[jariel]

(01-03-2013 11:30 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

What night is best at Well?

For me it was Thursday, the Salsa/Bachata night, but that's been moved to another spot called Moca Lounge.

Well does something on Saturdays, but I've never been on that night.

[Vitriol]

(01-02-2013 07:40 PM)kenny_powers Wrote:  

(01-02-2013 06:02 PM)rationalize_this Wrote:  

(01-02-2013 06:00 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(01-02-2013 05:57 PM)rationalize_this Wrote:  

BT's in South Miami I know well. My neighbor when I was living in South Miami actually was a stripper there.

She used to bring her friends back for "slumber parties" after hours. Never seen that much coke in my life.

BT's is a whore house. Almost every girl there does P4P for 200-400. The "Champagne Room" is just you fucking the girl in a private room. Easy to pull from there however. Lots of single moms, older used up women. Mediocre talent.


Scarlett's is #1 in my opinion. Place is more like a club than a strip club. I've pulled multiple chicks from here (not strippers), and brought multiple chicks there. Almost every girl has that innate curiousness in strippers anyways.
Talent is better than BT's with a lot of fresh off the boat latinas. Spanish is a MUST HAVE.

Tootsie's I've rarely been. But its essentially a converted Sam's Club. Strip club warehouse. There are actually 3-4 strip clubs inside that place. More quantity, perhaps less quality.

Isn't there one in Downtown? Solid Gold or something, across the bridge from South Beach?

Actually never heard of it or never been.

Strip clubs are a rare occasion for me lately.

There isn't much reason for me to go that far when I have my logistics down pat...

Scarlett's peaked in 2005-2006. It was all Russian and party central. As Rationalize said, it is now more of a club and IMO a waste of money. I too have pulled civilian women out of there. Best thing is you can walk out at 7:00 am Saturday and the sun is shining.

On the other side of US1 from Tootsies is Cheetah Hallandale. Lower class environment. Got closed down for P4P and blow. They opened again about 18 months ago and it is business as usual there.

Tootsies is a brothel. It gets low class as fuck after midnight. I suggest going around 6 PM on a Friday. You will have access to the full buffet of talent and your pick of the litter.

BT's and Tootsies are my JAM. I talked to a couple hoes who used to work at Scarlett's in these places, they said don't go unless you just wanna get teased and ripped off. It's more of a place cab drivers take tourists when they're drunk than anything. Dade is generally better than Broward for this stuff.