[PartyTime]

(11-23-2009 01:57 AM)Whoremonger Wrote:  

I think it has to do with the lack of eligible men? Lets be honest, if you have a stable job with middle class income or above, dont drink like a fish, dont beat the crap out of her because she burned the roast, have some basic manners and dont get caught cheating too often, you are pretty much a borderline rockstar in provincial Russia.

I think it has more to do with the fact that non-western women are more in touch with there emotions, whereas western women try to disconnect from their emotions.

[kerouac]

The western woman thing, from what I've seen at least having traveled around most of the "westersphere", is limited mainly to English speaking countries. I think one reason is that English speaking countries place a greater emphasis on rule of law over common sense in certain cases, so people who can organize the law to work in their favor (feminists for instance) can make a pretty swift change in how the society functions.

[Whoremonger]

English means that get more Sex in the City and Everyone Loves Raymond...

[PartyTime]

(11-23-2009 02:24 AM)kerouac Wrote:  

The western woman thing, from what I've seen at least having traveled around most of the "westersphere", is limited mainly to English speaking countries.

Interesting. Seems to be true.
I always attributed to the wealth of a country. More wealth, more feminism. But that doesn't always hold true.

[PartyTime]

(11-18-2009 03:23 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

Is this photo not representative? I just didn't think B.A. was bursting at the seams with hotties. Yet a lot of people talk about it as a hotspot for beautiful women. So maybe I was just in the wrong parts of town.

2 points:
- Most of the people in this photo are over 40
- Which part of the city the photo was taken in will highly affect the result.

But overall you are right, BA is not overflowing with hotties. But they are certainly there.

[speakeasy]

(11-23-2009 05:17 PM)PartyTime Wrote:  

(11-18-2009 03:23 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

Is this photo not representative? I just didn't think B.A. was bursting at the seams with hotties. Yet a lot of people talk about it as a hotspot for beautiful women. So maybe I was just in the wrong parts of town.

2 points:
- Most of the people in this photo are over 40

Doesn't matter. I can still judge attractiveness relative to age. I can look at a 40 year old woman and tell whether she was hot 15 years prior. For example, the Argentine president, Christina Fernandez is 56, but I can tell she was probably pretty hot at age 23. And she's not bad at all even for a 56 year old woman.


And this is no homo shit, but I also am looking at the guys in the photo too. I know good looking dudes when I see them, and I don't think the dudes are all that standout here either. Not saying there's anything wrong with the people in that photo, I just think people tend to exaggerate how good looking Argentines are. Every chic thinks every Argentine guy fits some "tall dark and handsome Latin lover" stereotype and dudes acts like Argentine girls all look like like Penelope Cruz. The reality isn't that illustrious, though granted I did see some good looking women, esp in Mendoza, though I think Los Angeles has more hotties per capita.

[NeVerGymLess]

Dude, the gringas go crazy over Argentina guys. ^^^^^^^^^^^^

[InternationPlayboy]

(11-24-2009 10:18 AM)NeVerGymLess Wrote:  

Dude, the gringas go crazy over Argentina guys. ^^^^^^^^^^^^

I think that is only if they are in Argentina. Where I live in the US, there are tons of Argentines and Brazilians, but they never get play from American girls. For some reason a lot of Brazilian guys think that American girls are hotter than Brazilian girls, but they can't get any action. I have Brazilian friends that are awesome at picking up Brazilian girls, but have no luck with Americans. The truth is, they are just too agressive. They'll walk up, put their arm around the girl so she can't go anywhere and go in for the kiss in like one minute, American girls aren't used to that, they think it is too over the top.

[InternationPlayboy]

And, holy shit, I can't believe the Argentine president is 56. I would bang her in a heart beat.

[Roosh]

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go in for the kiss in like one minute

lol if that

[PartyTime]

(11-24-2009 11:27 AM)Brandon E Wrote:  

I have Brazilian friends that are awesome at picking up Brazilian girls, but have no luck with Americans. The truth is, they are just too agressive.

So I don't quite understand. Does this super aggressive game that Brazilian and Argentine guys have work on their local women or not? I've read a lot of stuff here on the forum, blog, and blog comments, that says it doesnt work. The girls just get real passive and ignore the guys advances, and become "histericas" and shit. I've read stuff that here that says the average Argentine guy, although really agressive, gets little play and is frustrated. And then other times I read that this super agressive shit works.

So whats the deal?

And if all the local guys are being agressive, wouldn't it be better to play a different game?

[Roosh]

It works for getting make outs. Bangs though are another story.
Thing is brazilian guys are really aggressive in the beginning, but not very good at sealing the deal. It seems like they are satisfied just getting kisses.

[speakeasy]

(11-24-2009 08:50 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Thing is brazilian guys are really aggressive in the beginning, but not very good at sealing the deal.

Interesting, because the world has this impression that Brazil is one big f-ckfest and Brazilian girls give out pussy like a business man gives out business cards.

[speakeasy]

(11-24-2009 11:27 AM)Brandon E Wrote:  

And, holy shit, I can't believe the Argentine president is 56. I would bang her in a heart beat.

She's the only female head of state I can think of that's bangable. Most "power women" tend to be woof woof.

[Roosh]

(11-24-2009 08:58 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(11-24-2009 08:50 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Thing is brazilian guys are really aggressive in the beginning, but not very good at sealing the deal.

Interesting, because the world has this impression that Brazil is one big f-ckfest and Brazilian girls give out pussy like a business man gives out business cards.

I'll bet a billion dollars that brazilian girls have less average sexual partners than american girls. Doesn't mean they don't like sex though.

[elguapo]

agree on the sexual partners.

Brazilian girls are NOT easier than American girls. No way.

You can get a kiss/makeout within 10-15 mins everytime if you want. Means absolutely shit, though. Sealing the deal is another ballgame.

[thegmanifesto]

"I'll bet a billion dollars that brazilian girls have less average sexual partners than american girls."

"Brazilian girls are NOT easier than American girls. No way."

Agreed.

In my experience there are no girls "easier" than American girls.

The reason why you go to countries like Argentina, Brazil, Spain, France etc. is not for ease.

It is because girls are hotter, sexier, more feminine, not as annoying, more interesting, have more novelty, etc.

And if you have Game, you can get a more Quality girl for your efforts.

Plus, bragging rights to all your friends.

[PartyTime]

(11-24-2009 11:38 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

The reason why you go to countries like Argentina, Brazil, Spain, France etc. is not for ease.

It is because girls are hotter, sexier, more feminine, not as annoying, more interesting, have more novelty, etc.

Very well said. Foreign women are simply more "woman" than American women.

[PartyTime]

(11-24-2009 08:50 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

It works for getting make outs. Bangs though are another story.
Thing is brazilian guys are really aggressive in the beginning, but not very good at sealing the deal. It seems like they are satisfied just getting kisses.

Why do you think they continue the agressive thing is its not getting them laid?

Whats a better strategy?
What do you think of this: High energy, fun, cool guy game, but aloof. Not showing interest. Waiting until she chases you before reeling her in.

One last question: Are colombian guys aggressive too?

[Roosh]

You're asking "why do people do things if it doesn't work?" Hell if i know. In this case I think it's a cultural/macho thing to go for the kiss right away.

Aloof game is not as optimal on brazilian girls. They'll think less of you as a man if you wait too long to make a move and think something is wrong with you. I've had brazilian girls complain to me that i move to slow, or don't kiss sloppy enough. If you're not aggressive in the clubs here you'll pretty much go unnoticed.

Colombian guys are the most passive i've ever seen. Moreso than brazilian and argentine guys. Ecuadorian guys are very aggressive as well. Their specialty is dancing.

[Lumiere]

Funny you should say that. The only women, in my last two years in south america, that I have witnessed throwing themselves at guys are american women.

I went out last night with a brazilian friend and an american girl I knew basically tagged along with us (leaving all the people she was with) when we venue changed and proceeded to throw herself at my brazilian friend for the following 2 hours with zero success (he has a girlfriend).

I knew she would not get anywhere but did not tell her he had a GF because it was too funny to watch.

[thegmanifesto]

"Aloof game is not as optimal on brazilian girls."

I thought Aloof Game worked pretty mediocre on Portenas as well.

[Riker]

The reason Aloof Game works pretty mediocre on Porteñas as well is because ANY type of game works mediocre on them! They are histericas and hard to get no matter how tight your game is and how high your value is. Don't get me wrong tight game and high value will get you laid in Argentina, and with beautiful girls at that, but it will still cost you more effort just because of the animal we're talking about here. I don't think this is a negative mind frame, it just seems like its a fact.

I feel like a good mix of aloof game and aggressive game creates that push pull and histericismo that an Argentinian girl will appreciate. They hate a guy thats "regalado" which means easy to get or not a challenge. But they also hate a guy thats totally aloof and they'll think he's too egotistical. Mix it up and you got something that works.

Challenge works as well. A friend of mine recently was talking to a 9 and he told her "you know what, I think you're a 6 out of 10 at kissing" She was shocked and said that how would he know and how no one ever complained. He came back "i'm not looking to find out either" He went for the kiss shortly after and they made out for a while.

I have limited experience and only a handful of successes but its what makes sense to me.

[InternationPlayboy]

(11-24-2009 08:50 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

It works for getting make outs. Bangs though are another story.
Thing is brazilian guys are really aggressive in the beginning, but not very good at sealing the deal. It seems like they are satisfied just getting kisses.

So true man. My Brazilian friend was even talking about this. He said he used to run into the same road blocks but learned how to step up his game. He had a friend who made out with mad girls but never closed. He taught him the game and the kid started pulling mad tail.

Side note, you still in Vitoria?

[Kona]

(11-21-2009 04:18 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

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3) They get attached REALLY quickly.

Same with colombian and brazilian women

Wow,

When you break it off with an Argentine they get really upset.

Look out.

Aloha!