[j r]

(05-09-2012 12:10 PM)WasThisBeta Wrote:  

Currently studying for my last law school exam, but later tonight I will post a complete rundown of how i pulled the last 3 models.

People have been a bit hard on you, but I can see why. Your original post comes across a bit too much like a brag disguised as a data sheet. If you're going to break it down, I suggest with the most basic issue that dudes have when it comes to 8s and above: access.

Right now there are probably plenty of dudes running through models/actresses/society whores/whatever because they have the right combination of access and game. They could be photographers or agents or bartenders and what they have in common is a reason to be on the inside of a scene that's replete with talent. If you want to break it down for the average guy, you're going to have demonstrate how to get from the outside to the inside.

[Prince of Poundtown]

(05-09-2012 12:01 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

(05-09-2012 11:57 AM)Prince of Poundtown Wrote:  

I find it funny that the ones who are complaining about wasthisbeta being a troll are trolling all his threads brutally. He is making relevant threads and instead of letting him contribute, you guys are trying to prove your alphaness over him on an internet forum. FWIW I know wasthisbeta in real life and he does pull hot girls and definitely has some valuable stuff to contribute....

Are you sure you're not him?

From another thread:

(05-08-2012 11:56 AM)Prince of Poundtown Wrote:  

He is the creator of an epic thread. Let the man live

I'm quite sure. I actually am the one who showed him the rooshv website (I think he posted about how a friend refered him on one of his old posts if you want to dig it up). Just unsure why the hate....I've seen far more rediculous threads than the ones he posts

[20th Level]

Your style, your swagger and the shit you spit are the only thing that matters unless your job involves wearing a jersey with a nutmber and your name on the back.

I think some of these guys are confused about using game to pull 9's. Your game needs to be so tight that it can't even be seen any more. To the point that its not even game, it's just who you are.

One of my ace wings that I used to roll with was a true natural that did that shit all the time, wether he had money or was broke. He would show me pics of some actual euro supermodel he was banging and tell me how the fuck is he supposed to keep this shit up when dudes are rolling up in Lambos and SLR's ....he's the type that's always bouncing around from one big thing to the next so he had no problem going ghost on a chick and moving on to something else.

It also didn't hurt that he was good looking but it takes more than that to pull 9's . It's not that its some big secret to pulling them, its that your game simply isn't tight enough yet.

[soup]

(05-09-2012 12:46 PM)20th Level Wrote:  

Your style, your swagger and the shit you spit are the only thing that matters unless your job involves wearing a jersey with a nutmber and your name on the back.

I think some of these guys are confused about using game to pull 9's. Your game needs to be so tight that it can't even be seen any more. To the point that its not even game, it's just who you are.

One of my ace wings that I used to roll with was a true natural that did that shit all the time, wether he had money or was broke. He would show me pics of some actual euro supermodel he was banging and tell me how the fuck is he supposed to keep this shit up when dudes are rolling up in Lambos and SLR's ....he's the type that's always bouncing around from one big thing to the next so he had no problem going ghost on a chick and moving on to something else.

It also didn't hurt that he was good looking but it takes more than that to pull 9's . It's not that its some big secret to pulling them, its that your game simply isn't tight enough yet.

What does it take? Can you get your friend to write something about it?

[20th Level]

(05-09-2012 01:04 PM)soup Wrote:  

(05-09-2012 12:46 PM)20th Level Wrote:  

Your style, your swagger and the shit you spit are the only thing that matters unless your job involves wearing a jersey with a nutmber and your name on the back.

I think some of these guys are confused about using game to pull 9's. Your game needs to be so tight that it can't even be seen any more. To the point that its not even game, it's just who you are.

One of my ace wings that I used to roll with was a true natural that did that shit all the time, wether he had money or was broke. He would show me pics of some actual euro supermodel he was banging and tell me how the fuck is he supposed to keep this shit up when dudes are rolling up in Lambos and SLR's ....he's the type that's always bouncing around from one big thing to the next so he had no problem going ghost on a chick and moving on to something else.

It also didn't hurt that he was good looking but it takes more than that to pull 9's . It's not that its some big secret to pulling them, its that your game simply isn't tight enough yet.

What does it take? Can you get yeour friend to write something about it?

I haven't talked to him in a while but the funny thing is he probably has no clue a site like this even exists. Like I said, dudes a true natural. It's kind of ironic how we used to talk and compare mental notes about pulling chicks and it would basically be the same stuff that guys mention here.
The only difference is we had our own verbage and terminology that we would use compared to what the people use here.

[MikeCF]

(05-09-2012 12:10 PM)WasThisBeta Wrote:  

Currently studying for my last law school exam, but later tonight I will post a complete rundown of how i pulled the last 3 models.

Pics would be especially helpful.

[Mujeriego]

(05-09-2012 12:19 PM)Prince of Poundtown Wrote:  

Just unsure why the hate....I've seen far more rediculous threads than the ones he posts

He's getting flak from other members is because the title and content of the thread read like a landing page for a snake oil salesman "PUA".

j r makes a great point about access. Most dudes aren't around these girls and don't know where to find them.

MikeCF is spot on too about the array of options presented to the upper tier of girls. I casually dated a 8.5 and the red carpet treatment she would receive everywhere she went was sickening. Men bought her diamonds, clothes, shoes, etc. You name it and chances are she had it given to her.

[Feo]

(05-09-2012 01:32 PM)Mujeriego Wrote:  

(05-09-2012 12:19 PM)Prince of Poundtown Wrote:  

Just unsure why the hate....I've seen far more rediculous threads than the ones he posts

He's getting flak from other members is because the title and content of the thread read like a landing page for a snake oil salesman "PUA".

j r makes a great point about access. Most dudes aren't around these girls and don't know where to find them.

MikeCF is spot on too about the array of options presented to the upper tier of girls. I casually dated a 8.5 and the red carpet treatment she would receive everywhere she went was sickening. Men bought her diamonds, clothes, shoes, etc. You name it and chances are she had it given to her.

Ha, so you think every "hot" chick is given gifts and jewels everyday? and even when she is, that it's not from some dude that she's choding...so she's hot..fuck it..

[Veloce]

Here's the thing, I personally consider myself an intermediate. I've gone through a lot of legwork and busted my ass in scenarios to land a 7. I've had the occasional 8. I've had my fair share of nights punching my bed because things didn't go my way. I'm well past the 100 approaches mark. I'm pretty sure I'm not alone in this long journey of game, highs and lows, huge successes and massive failures, and from the shit that Roosh and all the other top dogs post and share with us, it apparently never goes away. The struggle never subsides. I'm just now at the point where I've number closed a handful of 9s but haven't gotten one out on a date yet.

So for some random dude to come on here spewing bullshit about how easy it is to land 9s and 10s, let's see it. Because god knows I'd love to know how it's done.

[WasThisBeta]

1)Maxim model I went to college with: SOCIAL CIRCLE GAME
So it’s a typical Tuesday night, I get out of class make a quick stop at the liquor store, and head back to the fraternity house. Tuesday’s spot is bar dt that has great deals, and is pretty much run by guys that were in our fraternity. So we essentially let underage girls in as long as they’re above 6s. So as usual, my pledge brother and a few other brothers get there early so we can secure our corner booth spot. At this point in my life I had been having success in poker recently so money was flowing like the tap during 1 dollar drafts. I’m buying everyone drinks because it’s cheap and I don’t really give a fuck. 4 pitchers later the bar is pretty packed so I decide to make my rounds, looking for eye contact, and saying whats up to the girls I’ve already been acquainted with.
Edit: Forgot to mention I was social chair of the fraternity for a semester so it was essentially my job to meet as many girls as possible, plan parties, and coordinate mixers/formals with sorority social chairs.
I spot this blonde that is easily the hottest girl in the bar. She’s waiting for her friend to get drinks but its so crowded that the bartenders don’t even have time to look at them. Since I’m a regular at this bar and my buddy is bartending I just point and give him 2 fingers and he hooks up two beers.
The blonde turns to me and says “How’d you do that? You must think you’re some type of celebrity or some shit.”
I tell her “Something of that sort” and ask her what she’s drinking. She names some girly bitch drink. I shake my head and look at the bartender and tell him shots. I tell him to make 3, two liquor one water. I make sure my target gets the water shot. Bottoms up, and the blonde’s face is priceless. She slaps me on the shoulder and is laughing but TILTED, saying I can’t believe I just gave her a water shot, I’m such an asshole blah blah blah. I blame it on the bartender and her friend says she’s going to the bathroom. I tell her I’m going over to the booth we’ve got in the corner and we’ve got drinks and she should join. She does. Her friend comes back and joins, but thank god my wingman realized what was going on and took care of it. At this point my memory gets pretty hazy as I had been drinking since 8. I just remember that the banter was pretty solid, and I was getting interrupted a lot by girls I knew or hammered brothers. She lived close to the greek village so I told her I’d call a pledge and we’d get out of there.
So we’re making out in the backseat of the pledge’s car and she invites me into her place. She gives me the excuse about having class the next day and I remember saying something to the effect of let’s cut the bullshit. You wouldn’t have invited me in if you wanted to go to bed early. Went for the makeout. No LMR after that.


Czech model:
So I was working for a law firm in NYC for the summer after my 1st year of law school, and I was on a pretty solid hot streak. ( If you’re ever in NYC hit lavo regularly and you’ll see more than your fair share of models ) A lot of the girls I went to college with ended up moving to the city after graduation so I had a decent social circle going. It also helped that I was staying in my gma’s 20 million dollar apartment on Central park south.
So it’s a Thursday night and I head over to the Radisson in midtown to meet this chick from my hometown for drinks. I’m suited up and I thought it was for sure in the bag but turns out she had some infection in her foot or something so it wasn’t happening. Fortunately, two of her friends from fashion school happened to join us, and an hour or two later after some witty comments and alpha body language, I managed to insinuate that I was heading to whiskey blue to wet my whistle and that they should join me. We walk into whiskey blue, get a table and drinks are flowing. For some reason, I noticed something in the lamp/light in our table. I took it apart and found a crisp 50 folded in between the glass panes. Score. It became our joke of the night, we’d hide the 50 on each other, take turns slipping it into pockets, dresses, etc. Then, I noticed this beautiful blonde that looked European walk in, heels clacking from the W. I tell one of the girls I’m with to write on the 50$ bill “I lost my voice, can I have your number” and give it to the blonde and tell her its from me. She walks over to the bar, and chit chats with the blonde for a bit, and then gives her the bill. The blonde is laughing and turns around smiling at me. I figure I’m in. This one was almost too easy because before I could say anything she said “I have to give you credit, that was creative.” I have a seat and I initiate rapport. Turns out she used to play tennis on tour before she modeled like me. A few drinks later, I invite her to my appt on central park to take “a look at the view”. The doorman almost cockblocked me on the way in. He said something to the effect of “another good night?” Definitely got a reduced Christmas bonus that year.

I'm leaving out the third and most recent for now because I'm currently dating her, and she is possibly LTR material.

[WasThisBeta]

After breaking these down, I feel like they are kind of luck of circumstance or timing. The first girl had just gotten out of a terrible relationship and the czech girl had just moved into the city so she was wide-eyed and without the shield. But I agree with the majority of the posters here that access is the main issue. The times I have pulled are most of the time happenstance. This just further proves the point that you always have to be on point with your game so when that moment comes, you can jump on it.

[Mujeriego]

(05-09-2012 02:54 PM)Feo Wrote:  

Ha, so you think every "hot" chick is given gifts and jewels everyday? and even when she is, that it's not from some dude that she's choding...so she's hot..fuck it..

Jesus you're thick. Go back and read the quote from MikeCF that SeductionSutra posted. We're talking about the options presented to fly girls. My story is an example of that though it may tilt towards the extreme. Your profile says you're from the Bay Area so you should know the deal. This place is ground zero for moneyed men tossing expensive gifts at girls.

[Veloce]

(05-09-2012 04:25 PM)WasThisBeta Wrote:  

After breaking these down, I feel like they are kind of luck of circumstance or timing. The first girl had just gotten out of a terrible relationship and the czech girl had just moved into the city so she was wide-eyed and without the shield. But I agree with the majority of the posters here that access is the main issue. The times I have pulled are most of the time happenstance. This just further proves the point that you always have to be on point with your game so when that moment comes, you can jump on it.

So you start a thread on "Landing 9s and 10s" and give us examples on...3 models you've banged? They were all circumstantial or due to luck, there was no game involved.

Look, one of the 8s I banged did a 3 page Maxim spread years later. I got lucky. There was no game involved. At some point I'm sure quite a few guys have gotten lucky with girls hotter than they're used to.

How you equate your 3 model bangs to your earlier advice of being smart and witty is beside me, but whatevs.

[Screwston]

This clown is back? At least Indian Troll is funny

[FretDancer]

Anytime now...

[Willy]

I banged a 'model'...Well, she was hot enough for commercials so I don't know if that counts. I knew her sister and agreed to teach her how to water ski (it was required for her next gig).

I saw her in regular clothes - still cute but nothing like when she gets all prettied up. I think that helped me treat her like any normal chick - very important. I think you have to not be genuinely impressed with their model status or your out.

Having a rad boat (Donzi) helped plus the teacher dynamic and already having a GF so I was not eager at first. One does not an expert make. But i think the "always on" mentality combined with luck, opportunity and an adventurous lifestyle helps. But who knows... bitches be crazy. The hotter the crazier.

[Bad Hussar]

Was This Beta:
If your suggestion for landing 9's and 10's is to bring them back to your Grandma's CPS penthouse it's hardly a very practical one is it? Most guys here obviously do not come from family's with that kind of money. Your case just lends support to what MikeCF was saying.

So it was unlikely that it was your witty banter that got you laid, but rather your money. Or rather the illusion of your family's money. Nothing "wrong" with this, but don't kid yourself.

[WanderingSoul]

I dated a model back in the day. True story. And if the modeling agency that she paid $2,250 to for her head shots hadn't mysteriously vanished overnight she would have been the next Kate Upton. No bullshit.

[soup]

I was out last night with a couple of chick bartender/model friends of mine. We went to a promoter's party where they face check etc.

I think it might be easier to get with models than we are making it out to be, IF you have some preselection (like my friends) that gets you into their circle.

So, you don't have to be rich or handsome. But, you might need a little more than just cold approach techniques. To get access, the easiest things I can think of (and they were listed somewhere on one of these "how to bang model chicks" or "value vs. game" threads that have been popping up), is to make friends with models first, or the people that they'd hang with.

So, get good at DJing, be a bartender, try promoting, playing music, photographer, etc.

These may seem like extra-curricular lifestyle activities, but you can think of them like you would working-out. It's a little bit of in-direct work that can get you an in.

Then, once you are in, and you if you have your approach game together, the possibility of landing a model is not so bad.

[bacan]

I got my first phone number from a girl that could have been a 10 but she was on vacation for like 3 weeks before she was going to come back to my city. When she got back, I called her but she told me she was with her boyfriend! What the hell...

Damn I'm a long way from banging 10's... I know what people say when they say an 8 or 9 is 10x harder than a 7 and so on..