Quote: (05-08-2012 06:04 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:
Generally the problem with beach is that many girls are there tanning so you have to wait till they open their eyes.Walking all over the beach for hours searching for targets can cause sunburns and heat stroke where you become dizzy.A great problem in beach are the various umbrellas controlled by guys who care that none disturbs their clients.If you go and talk to a girl sitting under an umbrella it is likely a guy who rents the umbrellas will appear and ask for explanations.His goal is that you rent umbrella as well close to her which limits your movements and targets and can be expensive (in Mykonos umbrella can cost 9 euro for a day).
So in order to avoid all these problems here is my advice:
1.Always wear a long sleeve blouse and a hat to avoid sunburns and heat stroke.Also wear trousers if possible to cover the legs from the sun.Do not wear just bathing suit.
2.It is preferable to hit on girls while they stroke on street after they have finished bathing in order to avoid to stand under the sun for long.
3.Choose always whiter girls to hit on this means that they have not been long enough in the place to get hit on.(they have not tanned).
4.Stand when you talk first to girls.Do not lie down next to them so that you do not appear intimidating.Then gradually sit.
5.You can start touching early on(aka splaying oil on girls body).
6.Do not hesitate to talk to topless or nude girls.They find the whole situation sexy and funny.
7.Logistics are that you should arrange a date in evening proposing a club.
I wanted to bump this thread as one of my new missions is to improve my beach game. This post seemed to come from someone who has spent time in the field doing this vs just theory. I agree that it might not be feasible to be fully clothed but if any of you have ever seriously daygamed, stamina and staying hydrated is important. So the fact that you're under the sun on the beach can only make things more difficult the longer you hunt. I think one way to mitigate these challenges is to choose a high traffic location where you can see new girls walking to find a spot and either follow/plan to open later. Another would be to really know the dynamics of the specific beach to know what the prime times are so that you're not walking around hunting when it's a historically bad time to hunt vs the ideal time.
Quote: (05-08-2012 06:40 AM)Walnuts Wrote:
Quote: (05-08-2012 06:04 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:
1.Always wear a long sleeve blouse and a hat to avoid sunburns and heat stroke.Also wear trousers if possible to cover the legs from the sun.Do not wear just bathing suit.
Lol who's gona walk around the beach fully clothed?
Won't that make you sweat like a motherfucker?
Just get some lotion.
Agreed
Quote: (05-08-2012 02:15 PM)PDX Wrote:
The tried-and-true opener is to ask if she'll watch your stuff while you go swim.
Other than that...
I personally don't like to run around opening girl after girl on the beach. If I find a good prospect, I'll post up near her (but not too close) and just do my thing until a natural opening moment occurs, ie, she sits up to look around or put on more suntan lotion or whatever. I'm already positioned so my back is to her, and I'll open her over-the-shoulder. Pretty much just use day-game style elderly chat. Of course, this is time-intensive and you run the risk of the aggressive beach dudes throwing salt in your game, but it's the best beach method I've found.
I tried posting up near some girls today but personally don't like indirect openers so am figuring out a way to do it so that I give off a confident vibe while not being sleazy at the same time since they may be topless and in bikini showing their ass cheeks. But yes, I agree that this should just be an extension of day game. As for aggressive beach dudes, good to know they're out there. If I may equate this to a club, part of the reason I like opening direct is once a girl has accepted that frame from me, some alpha male can come in but he's still a pussy compared to my upfront honesty and if the girl is into me, I can just drag her away. If she doesn't let me do that, she just wasn't into me. So I'd like to apply that same philosophy to beach game.
Quote: (05-08-2012 05:14 PM)Veloce Wrote:
I've had success with volleyball approaches. I'm not even that great at it, but it's fun, and in Santa Monica there are volleyball courts where I've gone up to random groups and asked if they could use an extra player. There's lots of gay dudes and hardcore pros, so obviously scope out a court before you approach a group, but it's common to see groups with a good mix of people and you can fish out interested girls from there. Most of the time they sneak booze on the beach (illegal here w/out permit) so it's more of a social get together than a hardcore volleyball fest. If you're in decent shape and put out a good vibe, invariably some girl will ask you where you're from, etc. Proceed accordingly.
Have you ever compared your results in approaching big groups vs two sets? I'm thinking I want to focus mostly on small groups as I don't want to be mister social to win over a big ass crowd. I'd rather win over one friend to get to my gal at most, ideally with a wing, just focus on the one I want.
Quote: (05-08-2012 05:29 PM)alphaspiraton Wrote:
Quote: (05-07-2012 09:24 PM)houston Wrote:
Anyway to reluctantly answer the OP's question, don't just pick one spot at the beach to post up and game. Keep moving around. You'll notice throughout the day that people keep going to different parts of the beach. I.e. in the morning/afternoon you'll find that beach volleyball is hot. Whereas closer to the evening when the energy level dies down, people are more likely to be sitting around having a beer. Try to meet lots of ppl earlier in the day so that in the evening maybe you can come back to them and have a beer on beach chairs.
Interesting point. Need to learn the nuances of the specific beach dynamics for specific days. Or I might go sniper mode and just chill by a high traffic foot area and go after the ones that move my nut muscle.
Quote: (05-09-2012 02:04 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:
Also it is important to differentiate between various girls nationalities accrding to their bikinis and general appearance in order to screen the best targets.
1.Russian women:Bikini:Thong or tanga mostly.Always bikini does not cover upper part of buttocks.High heels possible even in beach.Heavy make up on beach.Often with their moms.
2.Polish women:They wear sunglasses often.Bikini:Sexy with colors but no tanga.They always wear earings.Normal make up not too much.They are usually in mixed companies or in pairs with other 2-3 women.They generally have a seemingly innocent but easy going smile.
3.Serbian women.Flabbergasted appearance with black bikini(Balkan kurwa style they wear black bikini to remind of underwear also common among Greek women).Strict expression on face,perfect abdomen from training.They have the abrupt Balkan face characteristics no slavic sweet aka polish girls.
4.Greek women.Also black bikini(not thong or tanga but very revealing).Greek women use to wear bikinis that connect with string on the side.In this way they often leave the string loose and you can see part of their pussy from the side(Balkan kurwa style).They usually apply lots of lotions and creams and try to have perfect tanning.
5.Czech women.Always(over 80%) with tangas.Most bath topless.Generally heavy exhibionists.If you see a girl with tanga on beach and no heavy make up she is likely Czech or Slovak.Czech women posess impressive breasts and make an unforgetable impression with their assets.They are not low profile as polish women.
With a serious amount of slavic women exposing their goods on beach the ground starts to lift by the common penis action sending waves to the universe.
Damn! That's attention to detail! Notes taken
FROM THE OTHER THREAD:
Quote: (07-02-2011 10:26 PM)Basil Ransom Wrote:
I just did some beach game for the first time. Maybe it was beginner's luck, but it was surprisingly easy. Did 4 approaches, and all were very receptive initially. I got one number, one was 17, another I should have pursued but walked, and one the conversation got weird and she got pissed. Don't think you need to be jacked with a six pack to pull it off. I only went for girls without guys.
Some pointers:
Talk over your shoulder from a slight distance, 5-10 feet away. Make it seem like you are about to walk away, and steadily give her more attention as she warms up. It's helpful to know about the areas nearby, so you can riff on that. After a minute or few of talking, exchange names and take a seat.
Next time I'm going to try isolating. Separate her from her friends, maybe do something very physical like picking her up etc to vault the "escalation ladder," isolate and kiss. The number I got is almost certainly a flake, but there's a good chance she'd have agreed to isolation and a make-out.
And for this small sample, beach game was ridiculously easier compared to night game. Girls go out and lay on the sand, and they're bored out of their minds in the first five minutes. Their chick friends sure as hell aren't entertaining.
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Quote: (07-05-2011 05:51 PM)Basil Ransom Wrote:
I did some more beach gaming. My wing made a good point, to shake hands and exchange names a few minutes after introducing yourself, and then immediately sit down next to them. Avoid the girls who look like they're passed out. Deciding which dude gets which girl is less fluid, because the girls are seated and planted.
Beach game has a host of advantages over every other venue:
It's free.
There's no loud noise nearby.
The competition is basically nil - very few guys are doing pickup there.
Nobody is seriously busy, like at a cafe.
The girls are in no hurry to leave.
The girls are bored (of each other).
They're already semi-isolated.
It's not weird if you're there for hours.
Volleyball is overrated as a tool - it's really just a substitute for having the balls to approach and the game to match. It depends on your style, but if you've got good verbal game, I can't see volleyball being superior. What if the girls just want to play, and they don't actually want you? Or what if they don't want to play, but they would want you? I live in the world capital of volleyball, and there are still plenty of girls here with no interest in it.
You can make a bigger impression with good verbal game and kino.
Speaking of kino, I want to incorporate some sort of physical game. Something that is fun and flirtatious and involves lots of physical contact. Like thumb war or mercy but for your entire body. Any ideas? Or suddenly carry them into the water. Water balloons, super soakers...
Going on a boat sounds awesome. Isolation + alcohol = success.
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Quote: (07-06-2011 01:39 PM)Basil Ransom Wrote:
Another knock against volleyball... you have to be better than them. I realized "Demonstrating Value" is wrong. It's really Demonstrating Mastery. Any time, any where, you will not get the girl if you suck at the situation at hand. Dancing, conversation, sports, finger painting... if she is better than you, you lack mastery and your value sinks. Mastery determines value. Mastery is why you have an edge with the girl who comes to your part of town to party.
My friends played some yesterday with girls they had met the night before, and the girls lost interest. They said they wanted to find someone to "annihilate."
If you are worse than the girls, then you will not attract them. Playing volleyball at the beach is like going to a salsa club - everyone there has years of experience under your belt. If you're some upstart without natural talent, you're going up against girls who will beat you, or lose by a small margin. That's not a recipe for success.
I'm not really feeling the volleyball part. To me it seems like a waste of time. Either the chick is into you or not or rather, either she's up for adventure or she's not. Volleyball to me at least, seems like wasting a lot of time and energy when you can just screen upfront if she's in or out.
Quote: (11-27-2009 05:57 PM)Lumiere Wrote:
Logistics : The first time I did beach game I did not bring anything to get numbers with. Paper, pen, mobile phone. Kinda sucked because once I got the number (she wrote it on a piece of paper) I had to walk back over the road to the hotel to leave it there because I could not put it in my wet shorts. Take a small bag or rucksack with your stuff and maybe buy a super cheap second hand mobile (the kind you don't mind if it gets wet, lost, falls in the water) and use that for the beach and for taking numbers.
Good point. Must always have capture system. Hopefully though, you can transition to an instadate/instafuck from meet
Quote: (11-29-2009 03:12 PM)Kona Wrote:
(11-29-2009, 05:49 AM)Lumiere Wrote: Cool Kona but, for those of us that dont surf (like me) how would you open a girl walking past in the opposite direction on the beach or one you met while you were both swimming?
If you can smoke weed on the beach you're at blow the smoke in the path of the approaching females.
I like the weed idea. In fact, I think it would be a nice filtering system to throw out either a weed reference or alcohol reference early on in convo to see how they react. Is girl excited or disgusted by it? If they're excited, they are more likely the ones who'll be down for adventure.
Quote: (09-20-2011 12:49 PM)FlacoLoco Wrote:
[quote] (11-28-2009 09:44 AM)Lumiere Wrote:
Kona - nice.
Tips on opening moving sets? Sets that you meet in the water?
I have lived off just approaching on the beach at times. I usually find a spot near a few possible targets. Relax and enjoy the scenary while putting out a confident, relaxed vibe.
When they go in the water is the best time to approach. You are going in the water anyway she just happens to be there too. She is captive and free of any ipod, phone, etc. Then when you get close enough you can just start a conversation with something observational and go from there. Women have been super receptive while they are enjoying the water. The rest is up to you.
I used to enjoy the occasional beach cigarette and asking for a light has worked in the past.
Nice! That's my inspiration for trying beach game because the girls are in a relaxed mood. So if they're also entering the water, it's another good mood/prime time to approach.
Also, good idea about cigarettes. I should just bring a pack if a girl smokes. That would be the idea girl to approach. A hot ass girl who's laid out in her tiny bikini who likes drinking/smoking. That's the one I want to find.
Also, I know he was banned but G Man's link seems to have good knowledge:
http://www.thegmanifesto.com/2011/09/how...beach.html
Quote: (07-24-2011 10:25 PM)CupCake Wrote:
So I just got through with my 2nd approach session on the beach. I was thinking about writing after my first attempt but figured I wouldn't have enough material in my mind to sift through. My first attempt was during a weekday and I only got 2 approaches in. Today however was beautiful and the beach was packed. Plenty of action.
For those that don't know, I almost exclusively approach during the day. I started in retail environments, started street approaches recently, and am now getting into the beach arena. I am excited to inform the community that the beach has been the best venue so far. This isn't to say I was any more successful on the beach but the atmosphere is a lot more comfortable and the skin exposure is not only motivating but offers a lot of good insight into what you'll be "earning".
The beach is particularly good for several reasons. First, it's a casual atmosphere where people go to have fun. There are a lot of friends and families just hanging out and you don't feel as if you are intruding on anybody's space when you make small-talk. Wandering around to "check out the scenery" does not appear unusual and there's no need to "pick a good spot" or worry about "standing out". In no other arena can someone plop down anywhere and feel comfortable and look natural. Sitting down next to and talking to strangers is common and the potential for fun activities is broad. Lastly, beach game is great because it's great to be at the beach! If there's no one to approach, just sit back and take in the sun and scenery. Work on that tan.
Oh, by the way, it's FREE.
You just can't lose on the beach. It's now my preferred choice of venue and I'll be making attempts at it any day I get the chance. I envy the guys who live in consistently warm areas.
Some notes I gathered while on the field:
-Approaching hot women is easy. Every young girl has her fat, barely-clad bottom in the air. Tits galore. Your dick won't let you stop approaching. Wearing sunglasses naturally helps to aid in masking any quick peaks you take at a girl's parts while talking to her. Very helpful.
-College girls are still impossible to approach alone. They are often in large numbers and consistently cockblock. I'd need a wingman (or several) to pull this off. I had one teenage girl in my clutches and her two friends made every attempt to make things awkward. When rolling solo it is best to approach lone girls or girls in pairs. "Three's a crowd", I say.
-If a girl has a boyfriend in the area it's usually pretty easy to tell. Her beach setup usually gives the indication.
-Encountering the boyfriend is usually not a big deal as it is ambiguous whether you are hitting on a girl or just starting some neighborly chit-chat. The lack of excessive alcohol intake makes the atmosphere very friendly and drama-free.
-Girls who are reading or using cellphones are not open to being approached. They brought distractions and intend to stick with them. Girls with cellphones at the beach seem particularly stupid and unapproachable. Some even lay out celebrity magazines. Conversations are impossible, jokes go over their heads. Do not approach.
-Scanning the beach is naturally fun and finding a reason to stop in front of a girl is easy. Sitting down because the sand is "too hot for your feet" is a good opener and acts to test a girls compassion levels.
-Some beaches have boardwalks, bars, and restaurants right by the sand. Easy to insta-date any time.
If you're new to game or still need improvement, the beach is definitely for you. Go solo or bring your friends. Hell, you can even bring your family and ditch 'em from time to time. It's comfortable, full of flexibility, and fun.
Get out there!
Solid post!
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