[Aureo]

I know pretty much everyone here is over 18, and hopefully living independently, but say you were 17 years old again, and had been practicing game since you were 15. What would be the optimum conditions of your life, relating to game and alphaness?

[Kitsune]

I'll tell you my story, because I imagine everyone is going to say 'Work hard on yourself blah blah'

I did exactly that - in effect, I sacrificed my teens learning programming languages, making money, not partying etc. 6-7 years on, I'm only just starting to pull ahead of my peers. It is really difficult at times.

Probably, if you aren't spartan about life, the best thing to do is go out once or twice a week, get some trade skills/hobbies with side income potential, choose your college major really well (Put a LOT of thought into it,) save your money and aim to hook up with a few girls without letting yourself get tied down or in a rut. Same goes with male social circles.

If you can stick with that blueprint, you'll be doing pretty well by most peoples standards.
Oh, and don't spend all your money on expensive habits. Keep drink, drugs, cigs to a reasonable expenditure limit if that is your thing.

[Deluge]

(04-14-2012 12:45 AM)Aureo Wrote:  

I know pretty much everyone here is over 18, and hopefully living independently, but say you were 17 years old again, and had been practicing game since you were 15. What would be the optimum conditions of your life, relating to game and alphaness?

I'm 17 too. Practicing game since 15? Holy shit dude. Nice.

1. Day game as often as you can and never turn down an opportunity to party. If it looks like the liquor won't be flowing freely bring your own bottle of spirits.

2. Hit the gym. Lookup Starting Strength and follow the program to the letter.

3. Try and move out into your own pad as soon as humanly possible. It doesn't matter if it's a studio or you're sharing with a few people just get yourself right where all the action is in your neck of the woods. I plan on getting an apartment where all the clubs in my city are immediately after I turn 18. This doesn't apply if you're going to be moving to another city for college though. In which case, join a fraternity is what everybody always says.

4. Put a lot of thought into how you dress. The vast majority of guys our age dress like total shit. Wearing runners + ill-fitting jeans is not okay. The quickest way to separate the "cool" guys and the sclubs at our age is how well they dress. Put some effort into getting your hands on some nice clothes. I've replaced half my wardrobe this year.

As for alphaness:

5. Fix your body language. Go stand against a wall with your butt and the top of your head touching it with your back straight and parallel to wall. Now take a few steps forward while maintaining this posture. Notice how awesome it makes you feel. Now do this 24/7. And when you sit, don't cross your legs. Keep your feet nice and apart and let your balls breathe.

6. Talk deeply and more slowly. Talk "smooth", think James Bond. Don't be afraid to pause for a moment before speaking.

7. And when you speak, always look at the other person straight in the eye. Never be the first to break eye contact.

[Aureo]

hahaha yeah, I was behind a girl when I was 15, then my little beautiful heart got broken into thousands of pieces, and from the ashes of that, the actual me came out.

Body language is something I've been working on a lot, I notice it really has an effect in your behaviour. Same about voice tone.
My social life is ok, I mean, I go to a party at least three times a month and people say hi to me all the time in my school.

Kitsune, you have a good point, working hard and making some sacrifices will get you far. And that's where I have troubles, because I'm not sure I want to spend 4 years of my life in college to then get a shitty job where I can get fired anytime, I want to go as Roosh did, he seems to do pretty well without having a stable job, and it's nothing related to the career he studied.
What are your thoughts on that? I ask, because everyone is telling that you should study, to get a job and a family and blablabla, I don't want that, but I'm not sure how I'd go if I choose the other option.

[WesternCancer]

Bang all that underage pussy while you still can!!! Make sure to wear a condom because those girls are dumb with their birth control.

That and Pdogs suggestions. I wouldn't go balls out on trying to make mad cash just yet, not to say don't have a plan or anything. Enjoy your youth, be physically active, read, hangout with friends, do cool stuff, get life experiences etc. I'm only 20 and I wish I had spent more time just doing teenager stuff instead of studying and sitting on the internet. i wouldn't drink if I were you. I never drank until I was legal, girls were intrigued by it + if you don't drink you'll be able to develop your game more! If you're at a party just drink some coke in a red cup or something or only have a few drinks. So many guys just get wasted as fuck at that age. although if you're in a smaller town/with lower class girls they dig the guys who get fucked up beyond belief and do stupid stuff.

[R Smoov]

(04-14-2012 11:22 AM)Aureo Wrote:  

Body language is something I've been working on a lot, I notice it really has an effect in your behaviour. Same about voice tone.
My social life is ok, I mean, I go to a party at least three times a month and people say hi to me all the time in my school.

Thats exactly how my life is here at college lol and I'm 19. If theres one thing I can say that can help you on.

1. Wherever you go, network/make friends quickly. Being on this forum is a good example. Who wouldn't want to have a friend that "gets shit done" when it comes to life.

And if you do go to college, join a frat. Any social circle that benefits you as well is one worth joining.

2. Uhm. Try to get good at a hobby. Whether it be making music, dancing or whatever. Its a good conversation starter with any girl from what I see. I'm starting to figure out how to make dubstep music.

3. Stay on this forum. No seriously. I've lurked this forum for like a few days and I can see my mind starting to think differently.

[travolta]

Learn to play a musical instrument.

[Andreas]

I f you don't have a car like me and live too far from the city to walk, your social life, or should i say Game, will be fucked. You need consistency if you want to see results and going out once or twice a week is just not gonna help.

Here is my plan for the next months until June of next year:

Learn how to make money on the internet (which is what i'm in the process of). To minimize interferences such as test or exams at school, learn useful techniques to learn faster (holistic) than others and spend more time on self education. Most of what we read in school is crap anyways....

Do more cardio at the gym because i can't wait for that 4(?) pack to show. And find better substitutes for junk food. I haven't drank coke, alcohol, cardboard juice or eaten chips for long time. Only thing that awaits to be replaced is chocolate which i eat much less than in the past.

One last tip from me. If you are an atheist, pretend you are a Christian if you live around religious people. People are just so fucking superstitious and very easy to manipulate by fake promises. Or you can just mind fuck them in school yard while getting a crowd around yourself.It's good for social proof if you show them that you are calm around the idiots who tell you that Satan is about to come out of the closet at night and kill you....

P.S Make sure that you remember to draw the middle finger on those who tried to put you down when you achieve independent lifestyle.

[Aureo]

Thanks guys, your advices are very useful.

Discipline is something I have to work a lot into, but I'm doing pretty fine in almost everything else.

[Hendrix]

Damn, you guys make me jealous. I found this forum at 20 and I already feel like I missed a lot during my teens. Well, no crying over spilled milk.

Most important tip: FOCUS ON DOING WHAT YOU LOVE. Life is short, and you can't open a bank account in the next world for the money you die with.
Make every second count, really.

I know it sounds a bit vague, but you give me an impression of a smart guy.

Also, do sports. Doesn't have to be body building. I'd suggest martial arts for the added values its has beyond the physical. I did a lot of muay thai while at your age.

[Aureo]

Hey Hendrix, thanks for your insight. Just out of curiosity, how old are you now?
BTW, I think everyone has the feeling they missed something during their teenage.

[Hendrix]

I'm only 20, but I made a LOT of mistakes during my high school years. And now I'm doing a lot of catching up.
Because of that, I really want to pass my knowledge to someone who can still make use of it.

Hell, man. This forum exists thanks to guys that missed things (ahhm...sex...ahhm) during their teens.

[Aureo]

Well yeah, but you can't simply have a perfect teenage, actually you can't have a perfect anything, don't pressure yourself to do the catching up, because if you're here, at least you know your way around some things, unlike 80% of the people (not only men) who go through life half blind.

[muc]

Aureo, read this: http://www.rooshv.com/7-things-i-would-t...enage-self

[Deluge]

Also this: http://www.inmalafide.com/blog/2012/04/1...young-men/

The blogger mentioned a few times is yours truly

[Prowl]

Get out there and do shit.

Live abroad, have experiences, become an interesting person who's been through a lot and is unfazed by life.

Spend a lot of time doing social shit, going to parties, talking to girls, etc. Get that tolerance up.

[Aureo]

PDog, tell me more about your online business...

[Aureo]

I got my shit together more than 98% of men at my age.
I know French, English and Spanish.
In 4 months I've read 15 books, more than pretty much everyone the same age as me.
I have a job
I'm good with women
I know people everywhere I go.
I'm not a crybaby
I play the guitar, drums, and piano, in decreasing order of mastery
More independent than the majority at my age.

Amateur at life, but my aims are high.

[Deluge]

(04-25-2012 08:15 PM)Aureo Wrote:  

PDog, tell me more about your online business...

It's a mixed offline-online business. It's not a traditional passive income business model and it is completely unrelated to IM/SEO stuff. Other than that my lips are sealed.