This datasheet is for anyone out there crazy enough to go work in the Canadian oil sands up in the frontier boom town of Fort McMurray. It is meant to compliment my thread on getting a job in the oil sands which can be found here: http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-9826.html
About Fort McMurray (AKA Fort Mac):
The good: Anyone with half a brain can come up here and make decent money, if you are intelligent, ambitious, hard working and can stay off the C pipe, you can make a small fortune up here. Its a city of about 100,000 and most services are available, there are big box type stores and a few different bars, clubs and strip joints to keep a guy entertained when he has time off from his 90 hour work week. If you like hunting, fishing, skidooing and quadding, then this is the place for you. There is also Mcdonald Island park community centre which recently opened, one of the largest of its kind in North America, complete with olympic sized pools, rinks, big gym, golf course, etc.
The bad: Fort Mac is an ugly, relatively dirty, industrial town. Its population is made up mostly of uncultured Canadians (red neck) from various corners of the country where industry has died out in recent years, but mostly East Coast (especially Newfoundland). Rent and housing prices are insanely high, a mobile home (trailer) will set you back a cool half a million bucks, the rent in the last place I stayed in was $3500/month for a furnished 2 bedroom condo (company paid for it so I didn't care), a room in a house goes for $800-1000. Also, since everyone is there to make money, most people work a lot of OT, myself, if I'm not working at least 70-80 hours/week (preferably 90-100), then I don't want to be in Fort Mac. That's the culture there; work, work, work
The ugly: Although its not as bad as I thought it would be before I first went up there, THERE ARE more men than women in Fort Mac and a large portion of those men are young guys between the ages of 18-35, so competition at the bars is fierce. Thankfully, most of these guys are the douche bag, Ed Hardy types with no game whatsoever. However, with this unlimited supply of retards with way more money than brains and limited social skills, Fort Mac girls go to the bar expecting to have all of their drinks paid for them. This is the most extreme example of busted chicks dating up I have ever seen, or guys dating down, whatever you want to call it, I call Fort Mac "pussy purgatory", especially if I'm staying in one of the work camps outside of town.
Where to stay: If you decide to move there, I would suggest staying in the burbs of Timberlea or Thickwood, this is where all the people with money stay (or a lot of money, to qualify for public housing in Fort Mac, you household income must be LESS than 100K), there's actually some impressive houses up there. They're generic and you wouldn't know that you weren't in any other burb in any other Canadian city. Gregoire (near airport) is another option but it is lower end, mostly trailer parks (yes, the ones going for $500K). Then there's down town, I personally wouldn't stay there because there's quite a bit of riff raff (crack heads, whores, etc), its normal to go to work in the morning and have to step over a passed out native in your apartment lobby.
Where to PARTY: In Fort Mac the people work hard and they definitely party hard, binge drinking and copious amounts of cocaine snorting are quite normal (not much weed smoking since we all have to do piss tests, but you can do an 8 ball on Friday and be clean by Monday, yee haw!).
Club NV: The only "big club" in the city, its downtown and can probably squeeze in about 300 people on a weekend night. You will actually see some pretty good talent in here (don't forget, this is Fort Mac, not some sophisticated city like Edmonton, lol), you will also definitely see fights here, the first time I went in, I saw 4 different chick fights.
The Padollon: More of a bar/lounge, attracts a decent, mature crowd (drinking age here is 18), good place to eat, watch hockey or UFC.
The Oil Can/Diggers: complete shit hole, often see fights here but there is some talent on the weekend. You'll see more ethnic people here (Filipinos, East Africans, etc) but a lot of fake gangster types.
Restaurants (Earl's,Moxie's,Keg, Boston Pizza): These are all downtown and I prefer to hang out at these places, they all have hot waitresses who often make $500-1000/night with all the meat heads tipping them huge. Lots of normal Fort Mac girls in these places.
Paddy McSwiggens: Up in Thickwood, this is my favorite pub/club, they often have a band playing and the place gets packed. More of a mature crowd and not so much riff raff or fights, of course this being Fort Mac, most guys are wearing Tee shirt and ball cap with running shoes, your competition will be meat heads.
Whiskey's: Also up in Thickwood, younger crowd (18-22), some cute girls in here, I've only been once and almost got beat up so I didn't go back.
[/b]Strip Clubs[b]: Show girls and the one beside Diggers (forget the name) both are run by HA, attract a rough crowd and generally suck. the strippers charge $30/lap dance, no touching allowed. The make their money by rolling up posters and stick them between their legs and then having drunk red necks throw toonies and loonies into the hole, classy, I know.
There's a few other decent pubs and bars in town that are alright to check out, but as you can tell, nightlife isn't the reason to go to Fort Mac.
More about the girls: As you can see, the demographics make this place suck but what makes it suck even more is the sense of entitlement that most of these women have due to all the guys competing for them. I tend to go for the many Filipinos there to hold me over until my days off, they're the normal ones. Standard game won't always apply, most chicks here don't care if you read books, speak a foreign language or travel to exotic languages, they want to know if you have a big truck and will take them shopping in Vegas or to an all-inclusive week in the DR. I don't really bother with them to be honest. For shits and gigs, why not do a search on POF for Fort McMurray, Alberta, see what you come up with guys!
So, all in all, Fort Mac is a dump but it allows me to live a decent lifestyle (work 4-6 months/year) so I'm going back. I should be there by late April/early May, so if any of you will be in the area, lets meet up and throw some toonies at strippers!
Here's some vids that will show you what the MAC is really like: (I posted them in the other thread so some of you may have already seen them)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_pH-rDy1Dc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpBMnUNKqgA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PI68l8e-bw
About Fort McMurray (AKA Fort Mac):
The good: Anyone with half a brain can come up here and make decent money, if you are intelligent, ambitious, hard working and can stay off the C pipe, you can make a small fortune up here. Its a city of about 100,000 and most services are available, there are big box type stores and a few different bars, clubs and strip joints to keep a guy entertained when he has time off from his 90 hour work week. If you like hunting, fishing, skidooing and quadding, then this is the place for you. There is also Mcdonald Island park community centre which recently opened, one of the largest of its kind in North America, complete with olympic sized pools, rinks, big gym, golf course, etc.
The bad: Fort Mac is an ugly, relatively dirty, industrial town. Its population is made up mostly of uncultured Canadians (red neck) from various corners of the country where industry has died out in recent years, but mostly East Coast (especially Newfoundland). Rent and housing prices are insanely high, a mobile home (trailer) will set you back a cool half a million bucks, the rent in the last place I stayed in was $3500/month for a furnished 2 bedroom condo (company paid for it so I didn't care), a room in a house goes for $800-1000. Also, since everyone is there to make money, most people work a lot of OT, myself, if I'm not working at least 70-80 hours/week (preferably 90-100), then I don't want to be in Fort Mac. That's the culture there; work, work, work
The ugly: Although its not as bad as I thought it would be before I first went up there, THERE ARE more men than women in Fort Mac and a large portion of those men are young guys between the ages of 18-35, so competition at the bars is fierce. Thankfully, most of these guys are the douche bag, Ed Hardy types with no game whatsoever. However, with this unlimited supply of retards with way more money than brains and limited social skills, Fort Mac girls go to the bar expecting to have all of their drinks paid for them. This is the most extreme example of busted chicks dating up I have ever seen, or guys dating down, whatever you want to call it, I call Fort Mac "pussy purgatory", especially if I'm staying in one of the work camps outside of town.
Where to stay: If you decide to move there, I would suggest staying in the burbs of Timberlea or Thickwood, this is where all the people with money stay (or a lot of money, to qualify for public housing in Fort Mac, you household income must be LESS than 100K), there's actually some impressive houses up there. They're generic and you wouldn't know that you weren't in any other burb in any other Canadian city. Gregoire (near airport) is another option but it is lower end, mostly trailer parks (yes, the ones going for $500K). Then there's down town, I personally wouldn't stay there because there's quite a bit of riff raff (crack heads, whores, etc), its normal to go to work in the morning and have to step over a passed out native in your apartment lobby.
Where to PARTY: In Fort Mac the people work hard and they definitely party hard, binge drinking and copious amounts of cocaine snorting are quite normal (not much weed smoking since we all have to do piss tests, but you can do an 8 ball on Friday and be clean by Monday, yee haw!).
Club NV: The only "big club" in the city, its downtown and can probably squeeze in about 300 people on a weekend night. You will actually see some pretty good talent in here (don't forget, this is Fort Mac, not some sophisticated city like Edmonton, lol), you will also definitely see fights here, the first time I went in, I saw 4 different chick fights.
The Padollon: More of a bar/lounge, attracts a decent, mature crowd (drinking age here is 18), good place to eat, watch hockey or UFC.
The Oil Can/Diggers: complete shit hole, often see fights here but there is some talent on the weekend. You'll see more ethnic people here (Filipinos, East Africans, etc) but a lot of fake gangster types.
Restaurants (Earl's,Moxie's,Keg, Boston Pizza): These are all downtown and I prefer to hang out at these places, they all have hot waitresses who often make $500-1000/night with all the meat heads tipping them huge. Lots of normal Fort Mac girls in these places.
Paddy McSwiggens: Up in Thickwood, this is my favorite pub/club, they often have a band playing and the place gets packed. More of a mature crowd and not so much riff raff or fights, of course this being Fort Mac, most guys are wearing Tee shirt and ball cap with running shoes, your competition will be meat heads.
Whiskey's: Also up in Thickwood, younger crowd (18-22), some cute girls in here, I've only been once and almost got beat up so I didn't go back.
[/b]Strip Clubs[b]: Show girls and the one beside Diggers (forget the name) both are run by HA, attract a rough crowd and generally suck. the strippers charge $30/lap dance, no touching allowed. The make their money by rolling up posters and stick them between their legs and then having drunk red necks throw toonies and loonies into the hole, classy, I know.
There's a few other decent pubs and bars in town that are alright to check out, but as you can tell, nightlife isn't the reason to go to Fort Mac.
More about the girls: As you can see, the demographics make this place suck but what makes it suck even more is the sense of entitlement that most of these women have due to all the guys competing for them. I tend to go for the many Filipinos there to hold me over until my days off, they're the normal ones. Standard game won't always apply, most chicks here don't care if you read books, speak a foreign language or travel to exotic languages, they want to know if you have a big truck and will take them shopping in Vegas or to an all-inclusive week in the DR. I don't really bother with them to be honest. For shits and gigs, why not do a search on POF for Fort McMurray, Alberta, see what you come up with guys!
So, all in all, Fort Mac is a dump but it allows me to live a decent lifestyle (work 4-6 months/year) so I'm going back. I should be there by late April/early May, so if any of you will be in the area, lets meet up and throw some toonies at strippers!
Here's some vids that will show you what the MAC is really like: (I posted them in the other thread so some of you may have already seen them)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_pH-rDy1Dc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpBMnUNKqgA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PI68l8e-bw
