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What U.S. City is 2nd to New York?
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What U.S. City is 2nd to New York?

Quote: (Yesterday 11:23 PM)copperwire Wrote:  

SF, lol. That city has been completely inundated with Chinese and Indian single male tech workers. The ratios are horribly skewed everywhere for nightlife. You'll feel very much out of place if you aren't employed in tech, or a rich kid from Marin county.

The caliber of women is average-ish. Not horrible, though. Daytime is much better for quality. Night time is average for selection, but just barely. It's the caliber of an average-ish smaller town, only with many more people. Huge hordes of thirsty guys. Expect stereotypically bad ratios: 3 to 1, 4 to 1, or worse. Large contingents of sausage fests.

The women are incredibly spoiled. 5's to 7's expect to be spoiled, and expect access to the best looking men, as well as the most financially successful or both. Decent looking cougars who have kept themselves up to any reasonable degree are in huge demand because of so many wealthy men with huge disposable incomes.

A decent selection of attractive 20 something girls, but it often feels like you're swimming through the sewer to get to them. It's easy to say that the tech industry has destroyed the social scene because it's true in large part.

There's a large and 'thriving' pua scene, or at least there was, as of a few years ago. Most of those guys are bottom feeders, but there's enough women so that that lifestyle is possible. Even fulfilling since those guys are used to not getting laid at all.

I like this analysis of San Francisco. I don't quite understand how too many Chinese and Indian men affects white men. Indian men in particular are spam approaching white women (I see this with Indian men in Dallas). I don't see it as much in nightlife with the Chinese men, but I'm guessing the Chinese men are active on dating sites/apps. The vast majority of white women turn down Chinese and Indian men. The white women get ego validation out of this but just really get annoyed that their time is being wasted.

I see San Francisco as having hordes of Chinese men, Indian men, cucked white guys, nerdy/soy boy/male feminist white boys not getting laid. I also see a lot of white women not getting laid there either. A lot of the white women there are careerist SJWs/feminists etc. Seems like a pretty bad deal for both sides.

Quote: (Yesterday 10:24 PM)copperwire Wrote:  

This thread's funny as shit. I won't mention the forum, but there's a well known PUA forum which insists that you HAVE to live in a big city in order to pickup. On this forum, everyone from a big city says their own big city sucks so you have to live in some other big city.

In other words, every single city sucks, large or small, sucks for game. In reality, if you are good looking and have good game, you will have good results, regardless of the city.

My city sucks too. Dallas.

Dallas has gotten some of the surplus Chinese and Indian male tech workers. Dallas also has many females that would be staight out of DC casting call, the whole SJW/feminist/careerist variety. Then there is something called Dallitude. Dallas is known for its pretentiousness. White women are extremely demanding in the central city neighborhoods. You can run great cocky and funny game here and the women while give you a saccharine line that they are flattered you are approaching them but they don't want to see you. This is especially true of women from the Southern small towns near Dallas (think Arkansas, Louisiana) who moved to the big city for work. I'm from New Jersey so I don't appreciate mamby pamby politeness. I appreciate it when people are real. Dallas people are a little milquetoast for my taste.

One of the hallmarks of Dallas women is their apathy. Many of them are really aren't all that interesting or interested about anything. Due to the bad sex ratios here, the girls are getting approached constantly and they really aren't impressed.. The threshold of what it takes to get a date here and land a date here is higher than in many places. Also, since people generally move to Dallas for work reasons and nothing else, you do get a lot of worker bee drones here who live here only for their career but would rather live somewhere else.

Quote: (Yesterday 10:24 PM)copperwire Wrote:  

This thread's funny as shit. I won't mention the forum, but there's a well known PUA forum which insists that you HAVE to live in a big city in order to pickup. On this forum, everyone from a big city says their own big city sucks so you have to live in some other big city.

In other words, every single city sucks, large or small, sucks for game. In reality, if you are good looking and have good game, you will have good results, regardless of the city.

I agree and just added to that.


Quote: (Today 06:50 AM)BasketBounce Wrote:  

I could do Phoenix if it weren’t so sprawly.

Phoenix has some positives but more negatives. The heat and the lack of career options are the big ones. The women are ok, but there is a fair amount of attitude you'll get if you are running night game in Scottsdale. Phoenix is one of the few cities where the suburbs (Scottsdale, Tempe) have nightlife that is on par or better than the main central city.

Day game is tough there. You can day game on the hiking trails of Piestewa and Camelback during the October-April time period. It's usually a bad idea in the summer. Summer daygame would be limited to air conditioned spots like grocery stores and malls, which isn't much unlike Dallas, where I live now.

If Phoenix had better employment options, it would be a better place to live than Dallas.
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