So after reading all the stories in this forum about S. America I´m hoping on a plane w/ a wingman in three weeks to hit South America:
My plan up to now is:
Rio - 2-3 days
Floripa - 4 days
Buenos Aires - 3 days
Cordoba - 2 days
I´ve been gathering some info spread in this forum about Rio here´s what I found:
Nightgame:
Nightlife: Been to a variety - Melt, Namaste, Lapa, Casa Da Matriz, Mariuzin. While all the guidebooks say don't go out until 12 or later, that is BULLCRAP. GO OUT AT 10. The reason I say that is anytime I have had any success, it was early in the night. Almost anywhere in this continent it has been the same. If you arrive at 1 or 2, it is almost pointless, the girls at this point are all paired up. And Brazilians are quite aggresive about stuff, I've had a dude pick a fight with me at relatively upscale Melt for stupid crap. Needless to say, my JiuJitsu skills aren't up to par so I bowed out.
NIGHTLIFE ZONES:
- If you like a complete mix, go to Lapa.
MONDAY:
TUESDAY:
Best party: Tuesday night at Melt. The top floor is a dancefloor with a live band and later a DJ. Packed with women.
Ditto feita (close to center)was the best place IMO, where there x2. Tuesdays its womens night and strippers turn on the women and then 20:30 the men get in... had some interest from gorgeous girls that then turned out to be there before a wedding
WEDNESDAY:
Casa da Matriz has reggae nights on Wednesday; great music but hipster crowd with minimal hotties.
Rio Scenarium is the current "it" spot in Lapa.
THURSDAY:
If you like college girls, try Namaste in Gavea on a Thursday
Democratica
FRIDAY AND SATURDAY:
Club Zero Zero
On fridays I usually just do the street party as there tons of people (all kinds of chicks, and not many gringos) very social and approachable.
Club with the hottest girls: Melt in Leblom. Absolutely sick on Fridays and Saturdays. Get there by 1030, or you will wait hours in line. Go in even if it is dead. It will blow up fast.
On saturdays I went to Rio Scenarium and had a blast, definitely recommended. It's a big house where you can dance samba on first floor, or just chill on other floors. Third floor has a regular club that was completely packed with girls waiting to be picked up.
when we rolled in at 10-10:30
Also six in Lapa go there early.
Bar Vasso adjacent on the street is a good place to chill beforehand. Popular with the "in" crowd.
- If you like upscale educated girls who have probably spent time in the US France or England, go to the numerous spots like Melt, Baronetti, Nuth, ect... These girls are hit or miss since they've already presumably had their fill of gringos (literally and figuratively), but I've witnessed some success by a buddy.
Saturday night is the one night when parents let their teenagers go out on the town. You will find some clubs entirely filled with 16-18 year olds. Bail if you find yourself at such a club (such as Home Bar); it will not improve.
The most elite spot now is the bar/club in the Fasano hotel on the corner of the beach and Rua Joachim Nabuco in Ipanema. Didn't try it out but all upper class Brazilians we met claim it to be the best bar.
Sunday:
Casa Rosa.
DON’T´S:
- If you like 50 dudes surrounding a group of 5 16 yearolds on the dancefloor waiting for their glory day, go to Mariuzin (i.e. dont)
- If you want to see 50 english speaking dudes a couple gringas and three brazilians who are already taken by some DB, then go to Shenanigans (I.E. Dont Go)
- Katmandu
- hide away on a sunday.
GENERAL:
Fun fact: Brazilian guys in the club are your worst enemy. Unless you are in with their circle, they will cockblock you massively from girls they know, and generally suck (i.e. stiff shoulders when you try to get around them). They know exactly what you are about and rebuff any efforts to befriend them. Resource war. This changes completely outside the club; they are chill and open.
Daygame:
Barra beach
Rio Sul mall just on the other side of the tunnel leading out of Copacabana is a good day game spot when it's not sunny.
There is not a single reason to go to Copacabana. If you are staying there you have already lost the game. Enjoy your souvenirs.
Don't cheap out on the beach. Get the chair, the umbrella, the coconut, and the cerveja. It will run you less than 10 bucks and earn you priceless, unforgettable viewing of Brazilian beauty. Meet girls buy asking them to watch your things when you hit the surf.
- I would recomend getting away from Ipanema, Copacabana, and Leblom for a day and go to Barra Da Tijuca. The beach is really nice, clear water, also warmer than the other three, with not as many people. I also saw a lot of cute girls and it was a weekday. I would say it´s a great place for day game, especially because it´s a rich neighborhood and there´s a good chance the girls speak english. If you go, take the bus. From Ipenima the 175 will take you there. From Barra, the 2113 will take you all the way back to Copa if you are there, and also passes by Ipanema and Lelom. You might be able to catch 2113 TO Barra too, not sure though.
What to drink:
Devassa (many varieties) is the best beer. Bohemia number two, Brahma number three.
Security:
- Security.
I'm staying here in Ipanema (one of the wealthiest neighborhoods in Rio) and not a day went by when someone wasn't robbed at knife/gun point right outside the hostel door. Everyone here had stories. If the internet didn't exist, you'd probably think South Zone is one of the safest areas you've been to. Appearances can be deceiving however.
1) You're more vulnerable when in a group with other gringos. Especially if they're from northern european countries and have sunburn marks all over (Irish, UK, etc). Regardless, a group of gringos is much easier to spot than one gringo walking by himself.
2) Don't think you're safe when there's alot of people around you. The rest of the people won't stop to save you--no one will.
3) Be wary of anyone asking you for directions/time, etc. They could be fishing to see if you don't speak Portuguese and are a foreigner and/or buying themselves some time.
4) Be paranoid, especially at night. If there's a person waiting by a bus stop, he can be waiting for you to pass by to rob you. Change directions/streets/walk around the block if necessary.
Been robbed twice, now don't leave the apartment (in Copa) after dark (unless taking taxi to a club) unless I really need to. If I NEED to, I wear a baggy Tshirt and pull my hat down low and slightly to the side to look thug and walk with my chest out. I figure, as stated before, if I can pull off looking like a favela dude then chances are people will be less likely to F with me. So far it works.
WHERE TO STAY:
Copa - Yes, there is nothing beautiful about Copa other than the beach. It is not ghetto, but more of a working upper middle class section. The nightlife here is spotty at best. Hookers on the beach, and then on the street at night. Still, it is a pretty wild place because of the cross section of society. Its hilarious to see an old fat white whale sitting at a beachside kiosk with a stunningly hot woman though. I stay here and would recommend it because it is fairly light on the budget, and even if you do live in Ipanema (which is better), you STILL have to take a taxi to go out since walking on the street anywhere is unsafe. If you have the money to burn, stay in Ipanema or Leblon. If your a broke 24 yearold who just graduated and scrounged enough money from a job as a waiter to travel abroad (like me), stay in Copa.
I've stayed in Ipanema for about 2 weeks and checked out Leblon. I'm now living in Copa for about 2 weeks.
I actually don't mind Copa, my apartment is cheaper, the food (comida a kilo) is much cheaper, maybe supermarkets as well. It's not as nice as Ipanema/Leblon that's for sure, but it's close to my Jiu Jitsu school and has everything I need. I feel that I'd blow my budget very quickly going out in Ipanema for food few days a week. For going out, I can take a cab or a bus to Ipanema/Lapa or whatever.
Also Roosh travel guides
GENERAL:
Brazilian girls are as hard as any to get past their initial barrier, but once you are in, you are in. No games. No flaking. Total accommodation to your convenience, total hospitality, and total generosity. They will pursue you hard. Minimal game required. Just be smiley, fun, and cool. Make lunch dates, juice dates, sightseeing dates. These will lead to nights out with them and their friends, it will be a blast. I think one night stands occur but I did not have any (I locked myself in with one girl early in the trip). To meet girls, use all resources: internet, girls on the plane, girls in shops, cafes, newstands, etc. Don't just rely on the clubs, though you will meet girls there too. Contra Roosh, I got the best reactions kicking butchered Portuguese (Oi, como vai? Qual e seu nome?) until they just came out and asked if I spoke English. My friend approached with English but would get rebuffed because of the perceived arrogance of not even attempting Portuguese. Tease lightly but be gentle and friendly. Your social circle will expand quickly once the ball gets rolling.
Hit up a soccer game on Sunday at Maracanã. Did it today, had a blast. Great experience. Take the subway for sure, it´s easy and fun. Just follow everyone singing aloud with the soccer jerseys on.
The buses are a blast. Like riding on a roller coaster.
Brazilians love to wait in line. Accustom yourself.
Small bills are needed for taxi drivers and vendors. Hoard them.
POSIBLE LOCAL CONNEC TIONS:
[email protected]
Roosh
Quasi
.....
If anyone can add something or suggest about rio or other places obrigado!
My plan up to now is:
Rio - 2-3 days
Floripa - 4 days
Buenos Aires - 3 days
Cordoba - 2 days
I´ve been gathering some info spread in this forum about Rio here´s what I found:
Nightgame:
Nightlife: Been to a variety - Melt, Namaste, Lapa, Casa Da Matriz, Mariuzin. While all the guidebooks say don't go out until 12 or later, that is BULLCRAP. GO OUT AT 10. The reason I say that is anytime I have had any success, it was early in the night. Almost anywhere in this continent it has been the same. If you arrive at 1 or 2, it is almost pointless, the girls at this point are all paired up. And Brazilians are quite aggresive about stuff, I've had a dude pick a fight with me at relatively upscale Melt for stupid crap. Needless to say, my JiuJitsu skills aren't up to par so I bowed out.
NIGHTLIFE ZONES:
- If you like a complete mix, go to Lapa.
MONDAY:
TUESDAY:
Best party: Tuesday night at Melt. The top floor is a dancefloor with a live band and later a DJ. Packed with women.
Ditto feita (close to center)was the best place IMO, where there x2. Tuesdays its womens night and strippers turn on the women and then 20:30 the men get in... had some interest from gorgeous girls that then turned out to be there before a wedding
WEDNESDAY:
Casa da Matriz has reggae nights on Wednesday; great music but hipster crowd with minimal hotties.
Rio Scenarium is the current "it" spot in Lapa.
THURSDAY:
If you like college girls, try Namaste in Gavea on a Thursday
Democratica
FRIDAY AND SATURDAY:
Club Zero Zero
On fridays I usually just do the street party as there tons of people (all kinds of chicks, and not many gringos) very social and approachable.
Club with the hottest girls: Melt in Leblom. Absolutely sick on Fridays and Saturdays. Get there by 1030, or you will wait hours in line. Go in even if it is dead. It will blow up fast.
On saturdays I went to Rio Scenarium and had a blast, definitely recommended. It's a big house where you can dance samba on first floor, or just chill on other floors. Third floor has a regular club that was completely packed with girls waiting to be picked up.
when we rolled in at 10-10:30
Also six in Lapa go there early.
Bar Vasso adjacent on the street is a good place to chill beforehand. Popular with the "in" crowd.
- If you like upscale educated girls who have probably spent time in the US France or England, go to the numerous spots like Melt, Baronetti, Nuth, ect... These girls are hit or miss since they've already presumably had their fill of gringos (literally and figuratively), but I've witnessed some success by a buddy.
Saturday night is the one night when parents let their teenagers go out on the town. You will find some clubs entirely filled with 16-18 year olds. Bail if you find yourself at such a club (such as Home Bar); it will not improve.
The most elite spot now is the bar/club in the Fasano hotel on the corner of the beach and Rua Joachim Nabuco in Ipanema. Didn't try it out but all upper class Brazilians we met claim it to be the best bar.
Sunday:
Casa Rosa.
DON’T´S:
- If you like 50 dudes surrounding a group of 5 16 yearolds on the dancefloor waiting for their glory day, go to Mariuzin (i.e. dont)
- If you want to see 50 english speaking dudes a couple gringas and three brazilians who are already taken by some DB, then go to Shenanigans (I.E. Dont Go)
- Katmandu
- hide away on a sunday.
GENERAL:
Fun fact: Brazilian guys in the club are your worst enemy. Unless you are in with their circle, they will cockblock you massively from girls they know, and generally suck (i.e. stiff shoulders when you try to get around them). They know exactly what you are about and rebuff any efforts to befriend them. Resource war. This changes completely outside the club; they are chill and open.
Daygame:
Barra beach
Rio Sul mall just on the other side of the tunnel leading out of Copacabana is a good day game spot when it's not sunny.
There is not a single reason to go to Copacabana. If you are staying there you have already lost the game. Enjoy your souvenirs.
Don't cheap out on the beach. Get the chair, the umbrella, the coconut, and the cerveja. It will run you less than 10 bucks and earn you priceless, unforgettable viewing of Brazilian beauty. Meet girls buy asking them to watch your things when you hit the surf.
- I would recomend getting away from Ipanema, Copacabana, and Leblom for a day and go to Barra Da Tijuca. The beach is really nice, clear water, also warmer than the other three, with not as many people. I also saw a lot of cute girls and it was a weekday. I would say it´s a great place for day game, especially because it´s a rich neighborhood and there´s a good chance the girls speak english. If you go, take the bus. From Ipenima the 175 will take you there. From Barra, the 2113 will take you all the way back to Copa if you are there, and also passes by Ipanema and Lelom. You might be able to catch 2113 TO Barra too, not sure though.
What to drink:
Devassa (many varieties) is the best beer. Bohemia number two, Brahma number three.
Security:
- Security.
I'm staying here in Ipanema (one of the wealthiest neighborhoods in Rio) and not a day went by when someone wasn't robbed at knife/gun point right outside the hostel door. Everyone here had stories. If the internet didn't exist, you'd probably think South Zone is one of the safest areas you've been to. Appearances can be deceiving however.
1) You're more vulnerable when in a group with other gringos. Especially if they're from northern european countries and have sunburn marks all over (Irish, UK, etc). Regardless, a group of gringos is much easier to spot than one gringo walking by himself.
2) Don't think you're safe when there's alot of people around you. The rest of the people won't stop to save you--no one will.
3) Be wary of anyone asking you for directions/time, etc. They could be fishing to see if you don't speak Portuguese and are a foreigner and/or buying themselves some time.
4) Be paranoid, especially at night. If there's a person waiting by a bus stop, he can be waiting for you to pass by to rob you. Change directions/streets/walk around the block if necessary.
Been robbed twice, now don't leave the apartment (in Copa) after dark (unless taking taxi to a club) unless I really need to. If I NEED to, I wear a baggy Tshirt and pull my hat down low and slightly to the side to look thug and walk with my chest out. I figure, as stated before, if I can pull off looking like a favela dude then chances are people will be less likely to F with me. So far it works.
WHERE TO STAY:
Copa - Yes, there is nothing beautiful about Copa other than the beach. It is not ghetto, but more of a working upper middle class section. The nightlife here is spotty at best. Hookers on the beach, and then on the street at night. Still, it is a pretty wild place because of the cross section of society. Its hilarious to see an old fat white whale sitting at a beachside kiosk with a stunningly hot woman though. I stay here and would recommend it because it is fairly light on the budget, and even if you do live in Ipanema (which is better), you STILL have to take a taxi to go out since walking on the street anywhere is unsafe. If you have the money to burn, stay in Ipanema or Leblon. If your a broke 24 yearold who just graduated and scrounged enough money from a job as a waiter to travel abroad (like me), stay in Copa.
I've stayed in Ipanema for about 2 weeks and checked out Leblon. I'm now living in Copa for about 2 weeks.
I actually don't mind Copa, my apartment is cheaper, the food (comida a kilo) is much cheaper, maybe supermarkets as well. It's not as nice as Ipanema/Leblon that's for sure, but it's close to my Jiu Jitsu school and has everything I need. I feel that I'd blow my budget very quickly going out in Ipanema for food few days a week. For going out, I can take a cab or a bus to Ipanema/Lapa or whatever.
Also Roosh travel guides
GENERAL:
Brazilian girls are as hard as any to get past their initial barrier, but once you are in, you are in. No games. No flaking. Total accommodation to your convenience, total hospitality, and total generosity. They will pursue you hard. Minimal game required. Just be smiley, fun, and cool. Make lunch dates, juice dates, sightseeing dates. These will lead to nights out with them and their friends, it will be a blast. I think one night stands occur but I did not have any (I locked myself in with one girl early in the trip). To meet girls, use all resources: internet, girls on the plane, girls in shops, cafes, newstands, etc. Don't just rely on the clubs, though you will meet girls there too. Contra Roosh, I got the best reactions kicking butchered Portuguese (Oi, como vai? Qual e seu nome?) until they just came out and asked if I spoke English. My friend approached with English but would get rebuffed because of the perceived arrogance of not even attempting Portuguese. Tease lightly but be gentle and friendly. Your social circle will expand quickly once the ball gets rolling.
Hit up a soccer game on Sunday at Maracanã. Did it today, had a blast. Great experience. Take the subway for sure, it´s easy and fun. Just follow everyone singing aloud with the soccer jerseys on.
The buses are a blast. Like riding on a roller coaster.
Brazilians love to wait in line. Accustom yourself.
Small bills are needed for taxi drivers and vendors. Hoard them.
POSIBLE LOCAL CONNEC TIONS:
[email protected]
Roosh
Quasi
.....
If anyone can add something or suggest about rio or other places obrigado!