You've got it right.
Society spends a lot of time and money to socialize little boys.
Stand in line
Raise your hand when you want to speak
Be mindful of others
Share
Team work
But that's not how everyone in the world raises children.
Hell, it's not always how the top members of this society raises their children.
Rich Dad, Poor Dad actually didn't address those things head on - but most of us plebians intrinsically know that Bill Gates and Warren Buffet's kids didn't get the same type of education that we got.
One of the effects of forced socialization is to make the average boy less daring, less adventurous.
However, in terms of game, one has to be careful to describe what pathway is being used.
There are good boys, golden boys, and bad boys.
The good boys is what the system wants to create.
The golden boys become the managers, but not necessarily the people in charge.
The bad boys end up in prison, or marginalized.
If you want to go really deep on the subject, look up Prussian Schools.
And another good thing to do when you start researching how Western societies turn little animals into citizens is to "check your privilege".
You'll notice that most of the discussion is about BOYS.
Even if it's not explicitly stated, you'll think that.
It's never about girls.
When the state socialization arm does touch on girls, it was to keep their sexual impulses in check - but it was always in the frame that those evil boys are trying to get into your pants. Never mind the fact that girls going through puberty also get the urge to merge, the need to breed.
For whatever reason, the anti-social impulses of girls are given less attention, and as a result...well, I'll let you think about the girls throughout your life that learned to bend the system to get their own advantage. How tattling became their chief weapon, using adults to do their own dirty work.
There's a lot of levels to this game shit. Goes way beyond pocket squares, Starting Strength, and optimizing your OkCupid pics.
In a sense, the Red Pill is basically realizing that the socialization skills hammered into you in school, the "hidden curriculum" have way more impact on your life than whether you can do fractions or diagram a sentence.
To bring it back to game, often times there's something with these naturals that allow them to reject the "Feminine Imperative".
When you read pimp lit, a lot of the greatest pimps have horrible mothers. If you don't put your mother on a pedestal, the most important woman in your life, you won't do that with teachers, and you certainly won't do that with little Caitlin, Thuy, or Keisha.
I won't derail this convo any longer.
It's not about personal issues, just how non-community guys rack up bitches, and what lessons they can teach us.
WIA
Society spends a lot of time and money to socialize little boys.
Stand in line
Raise your hand when you want to speak
Be mindful of others
Share
Team work
But that's not how everyone in the world raises children.
Hell, it's not always how the top members of this society raises their children.
Rich Dad, Poor Dad actually didn't address those things head on - but most of us plebians intrinsically know that Bill Gates and Warren Buffet's kids didn't get the same type of education that we got.
One of the effects of forced socialization is to make the average boy less daring, less adventurous.
However, in terms of game, one has to be careful to describe what pathway is being used.
There are good boys, golden boys, and bad boys.
The good boys is what the system wants to create.
The golden boys become the managers, but not necessarily the people in charge.
The bad boys end up in prison, or marginalized.
If you want to go really deep on the subject, look up Prussian Schools.
And another good thing to do when you start researching how Western societies turn little animals into citizens is to "check your privilege".
You'll notice that most of the discussion is about BOYS.
Even if it's not explicitly stated, you'll think that.
It's never about girls.
When the state socialization arm does touch on girls, it was to keep their sexual impulses in check - but it was always in the frame that those evil boys are trying to get into your pants. Never mind the fact that girls going through puberty also get the urge to merge, the need to breed.
For whatever reason, the anti-social impulses of girls are given less attention, and as a result...well, I'll let you think about the girls throughout your life that learned to bend the system to get their own advantage. How tattling became their chief weapon, using adults to do their own dirty work.
There's a lot of levels to this game shit. Goes way beyond pocket squares, Starting Strength, and optimizing your OkCupid pics.
In a sense, the Red Pill is basically realizing that the socialization skills hammered into you in school, the "hidden curriculum" have way more impact on your life than whether you can do fractions or diagram a sentence.
To bring it back to game, often times there's something with these naturals that allow them to reject the "Feminine Imperative".
When you read pimp lit, a lot of the greatest pimps have horrible mothers. If you don't put your mother on a pedestal, the most important woman in your life, you won't do that with teachers, and you certainly won't do that with little Caitlin, Thuy, or Keisha.
I won't derail this convo any longer.
It's not about personal issues, just how non-community guys rack up bitches, and what lessons they can teach us.
WIA
Quote: (03-20-2015 09:49 PM)Moreless Wrote:
Quote: (03-19-2015 12:10 AM)Pride male Wrote:
Aren't most men Naturals at 5-7 years before puberty, rejections, conscience and self consciousness kicks in? I know when I was a kid I was kissing girls, approaching and teasing them. Then the rejections started piling up and I retreated into my shell of video games and porn. Oh yeah, I also went to an all boys' school.
I would like to read more about this. Not the porn and video games, but being a natural at young ages like 5 to 7.
I can't really remember what happened, it just seemed like the closer I got to age 10 or 12 the worse I got with girls and people.
Maybe it has to do with being extremely selfish at those young ages and only caring about what you want. As you age you realize the world is much bigger than YOU. So you take steps to start caring about what other people think and start trying act "socially acceptable."
Then it's a silly game of who your role models are and accepting advice/social ques from them. After all, you don't know any better. Unfortunately, not all role models are worthy of the position. Meaning, they can make or break you.
Honestly, should I have known better than to listen to my parents, youth leaders, and/or teachers? It sounds like I'm trying to blame someone. The fact is, children are very impressionable.
The only thing to do is pick up the pieces and start trying to live by a "red pill" code - to become the natural you always wanted to be.