[Kieran]

(12-13-2014 09:01 PM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  

(12-13-2014 06:24 PM)hwuzhere Wrote:  

Because avoiding nightlife social events and connections is conducive to starting up a business

You can only make certain kinds of connections through nightlife and those connections are the ones you want due to those people being the wealthiest and most successful. Not to mention having no social life and only focusing on yourself is somehow a great way to start a business. Contacts and pussy are the currency of the business world. Money is only exchanged for investment based on the previous two.

Nightlife can, of course, be advantageous if you have the self-control to make it so. That doesn't make it mandatory. There are plenty of highly successful people who are teetotalers, and for some people it's the best way.

There are also plenty of social businessmen who have taken breaks from society to put in an insane amount of effort without distraction. I'm not really sure why people feel threatened by this idea.

Also, regarding socializing, one of the things I dreaded most as a world traveler when I went on the wagon was losing that ability to make instant friends anywhere by dropping into a pub. I had a knack for going where most foreigners don't go.

I'm realizing now that it's just as easy to break the ice with strangers at a gym, especially abroad. I arrive in a new town and pop into a place to work out - always making sure it's a local spot - and I often go grab breakfast with someone I meet there. My social skills (my actual social skills as opposed to my conjured-up drunk social skills) are improving as a result. No reason you can't make business contacts the same way.

Again, the nightclubs can work for this, but that doesn't make it a required setting.

I'm not sure any of us feel threatened by the idea, it's more that we're against the original concept (that isolating ourselves to work on self improvement will make us more successful with women), because most of us have probably fallen into this trap at some time.

I think a lot of why it's so appealing is because it's measurable and fairly straight forward, in that if you just take these set of actions, you will achieve these specific results. For example train and eat a certain way and you will lift more weight (granted the business side is less predictable). This allows us to feel as if we're somehow in control, whereas when gaming beautiful women we really don't have control, and it's extremely unpredictable due to the myriad of factors at play (is she single, is she in a good mood, do you have competition, how are the logistics, etc.) It's only coming up against these situations again and again that allows us to become skilled in handling them.

Another thing about staying in the game is that it gives us instant feedback on whether what we're doing, or who we are (appearance etc.), is working, and will give us the kick up the arse to fix the things that may be holding us back / work on weaknesses / find solutions to problems we're encountering concurrently. I read a great post from Giovonny recently where he talked about all the things he fixed and worked on to get to his level of success. I'm pretty sure he didn't put himself into isolation while doing them because that would have obviously been detrimental to his ultimate goal.

If the reason for it really is because girls are getting in the way of achieving important life goals, then by all means I think it's probably a good idea to do something like this, but that wasn't the premise given in the OP.