[Simeon_Strangelight]

(11-27-2014 06:55 PM)Ensam Wrote:  

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When I first heard about ‘negging’ in the wake of the furore surrounding Blanc, I talked to my girlfriends, and many shamefacedly confessed to having been on the receiving end of such behaviour, as young women and into middle age.
One said she was recently approached by a nice-looking, slightly podgy man in the local pub, who piped up: ‘You’re brave wearing skinny jeans.’ Then: ‘I’m really turned on by big women.’
She’s a size 14. She replied: ‘Sadly for you, I’m not turned on by middle-aged idiots.’

So clearly it doesn't work all the time.

I think something she and early PUAs both got wrong is that negging isn't necessarily about displaying social dominance or value. In fact it can be a very powerful form of bonding. What women ignore when they talk about negging is that men neg each other all the fucking time - we just say we're busting each others balls. And women do it to too, though often in more subtle ways. Gentle teasing and ribbing is a way of showing that you're comfortable enough with somebody to tell them a benign insult. In her first example her hair and makeup were prefect - the guy was playfully acknowledging that she was stunning by telling her she looked like a mess but loved her anyway. In the second example the insult wasn't benign. The woman was older and likely very sensitive about her nice size 14 body (my guess is it used to be smaller). In that case it was miss calibrated and seen as an outright attack. If instead she'd been younger, thin, and not sensitive about her weight it likely would have been a good neg.

Good negs are done in a light teasing way and resemble more banter. When men attempt negs at first, they come off wrong - when they continue with learning Game, they become better.

Teasing a size 14 older woman about her weight is really no way to go forward. The more ugly, the older and the fatter she is, the less you really need to tease her. In the most extreme cases no tease should be applied at all.

Any guy who would be somewhat aware of Game should also know that you don't really need much teasing for a fat 30+ year old or older.

And yes - this aging post wall-woman is like many others attacking negs, because they seem to be misogynist to the fem-centric media. The problem is that they actually work, when done right. Think of how little girls are - they react in glee and laughter when a father teases them about some point. They have plenty of fun with it - the grown woman is similar. She likes to be teased as part of the seduction process, if she has any notable sexual market value left.

A fat older woman has no tease left in her - she needs only compliments or she reacts viciously. A simple "HI" should have been enough for her.

The author who was "negged":



Even if one of us 60+ year olds who felt like approaching her, he would know that teasing an olde battleship like her is no way to go forward.