I recognize and understand why under normal circumstances it's the best / most alpha strategy to drag your feet, keep seeing the rest of your harem, etc. and make the girl bring up monogamy and ask for a committed relationship. Then you, as the "wild stallion", have to allow her to feel that she's "tamed" you. I get that it's a smart way to enter a relationship and sets the table for a healthy dynamic.
I'm at that point with a girl that I really like - Plus I've been ready for a relationship for a while now (I've been single or "mostly single" for about 4 years at this point. I miss having dinner and seeing artsy movies and going to theater - things that I've only been able to do about 1/10th as much as I'd like with no true girlfriend during this time).
But what if the girl is a bit more shy and submissive because of her upbringing (Eastern Europe until a teenager) and is more thoughtful and traditional than 95% of her American-born peers? What if she works literally 60 hours a week and you suspect that she's not got time to be dating anybody else/worry about playing "games", etc. She just told me last night after sex that she was a virgin until 20. She's hesitant to talk about or bring up "awkward" things, so I wonder if - even if I dragged my feet for another two months - she'd have the grit to bring up such a difficult subject (in her mind).
Would it be such a bad deal for me to initiate the discussion in such an instance? Would I risk losing my "frame" from the get-to? I'm 34 and I'm tired of fucking girls that I don't care about - at least for the time being. I've been doing it for 4 years and have probably over 150 notches (kinda lost count). I'm just burned out and want to rest and be happy with this chick.
I'm at that point with a girl that I really like - Plus I've been ready for a relationship for a while now (I've been single or "mostly single" for about 4 years at this point. I miss having dinner and seeing artsy movies and going to theater - things that I've only been able to do about 1/10th as much as I'd like with no true girlfriend during this time).
But what if the girl is a bit more shy and submissive because of her upbringing (Eastern Europe until a teenager) and is more thoughtful and traditional than 95% of her American-born peers? What if she works literally 60 hours a week and you suspect that she's not got time to be dating anybody else/worry about playing "games", etc. She just told me last night after sex that she was a virgin until 20. She's hesitant to talk about or bring up "awkward" things, so I wonder if - even if I dragged my feet for another two months - she'd have the grit to bring up such a difficult subject (in her mind).
Would it be such a bad deal for me to initiate the discussion in such an instance? Would I risk losing my "frame" from the get-to? I'm 34 and I'm tired of fucking girls that I don't care about - at least for the time being. I've been doing it for 4 years and have probably over 150 notches (kinda lost count). I'm just burned out and want to rest and be happy with this chick.