Quote: (10-13-2014 02:48 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:
OK, just for argument's sake:
“And under all circumstances, any doubts about it should go to the animals’ benefit,” he said. “They naturally cannot say no to going along with it. Therefore, it should be banned.”
What if it's a male animal that is actively consenting? What if they're initiating it?
I just heard a woman complain about walking into a house and the male dog trying to mount her repeatedly and getting in a state of, um, "excitement." He needed to be put in another room. This is not the first time this has happened.
If they make bestiality illegal, then aren't they not considering the feelings of these male animals who every once in a while will find a willing human female? (Who was the commenter on here who said he dated a woman who confessed to jerking-off her dog?!)
And if you're going to say animals did or didn't "consent" to sex, who is to say they can or can't consent to getting shots or having to take medicine? That's human interference in their lives. Why do we draw the line at sex? Why not also include certain types of food they wouldn't eat unless humans packaged it?
I'm just throwing this out there to poke holes in the consent arguments, which always seem to overreach.
I've been making similar points for years now, mostly to troll and be a dick in gay marriage debates but there is still truth to them outside of the amusement gained from poking at SJWs. If the fundamental law for determining whether a particular sexual act is moral or not is the consent of all participating parties then it opens the field to all sorts of alternative sexual practices that I'm sure even the most depraved SJW would find objectionable. One of these practices is bestiality.
It's true an animal cannot consent, they lack the ability to either go along or to resist whatever is being inflicted on them. This does not apply just to sexual acts however, it applies to pretty much every single action we do to them. They cannot consent to being raised as livestock and then being butchered for food. They cannot consent to being used as test subjects in scientific experiments. They cannot consent to being kept as pets. Yet why is it that consent is of the utmost importance in sexual acts but not these acts?