Quote: (09-15-2014 05:16 AM)mikado Wrote:
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The difference is that I did not come here to steal French's possessions and freedom
Which is what the colons did in Africa.
According to you. Their ancestors have been there for hundreds or thousands of years. If large numbers of white people started moving to Africa right now, people would talk about neo-colonialism. Hell, people are talking of Chinese colonialism in Africa. It's always a case of other continents/countries for the people of those continents/countries, Europe/white countries for everybody. You wonder why Europeans feel a little pissed off about this? What is absurd is that many European nations never even engaged in colonialism, and were, in fact, colonies themselves. So you can't even push the historic sin line on them, as irrelevant as I think that would be anyway.
Europeans are also rightly concerned about a lot of immigrants moving to their countries and then demanding certain "rights" that actually do clash with the indigenous cultures. There's a reason why you don't hear much about Chinese or Vietnamese in the U.K., and that's because they behave themselves and don't constantly demand "rights" that aren't theirs to begin with.
It's also fallacious to talk about African freedom in the same way that it would be to talk about the freedom of medieval peasants in Europe or China. Freedom, like many great things and ideas, was a concept brought by Europeans, as hypocritically as it was implemented at times. Africans were selling each other as slaves long before white people ever got there to join in.
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And by that logic almost no American today deserve to be called American, because the Indian natives are the True Americans.
They are only guests.
There is some logic in that, though history is history. Hundreds of years is long enough, I think. No one is going to propose kicking anyone who is not Ainu out of Japan, for instance. No one is going to propose kicking anyone with Roman, Anglo-Saxon, Danish or Norman ancestry out of England either just because those people weren't the original inhabitants.