Quote: (08-07-2011 09:25 AM)Aliblahba Wrote:
You know what? STFU and do your time. You're "weesh" for even posting shit on the forum. Look at this:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-14435854
I'd give my soul to replace any of those that perished in that crash. You're a specific breed now that has heritage since 1775, before the country even became in existence. Freedom isn't free. My grandfathers fought in WWII and never bitched. Quit bitchin' and soldier on.
What will I do tonight? Raise a glass to the fallen in that helo and go to sleep w/ tears in my eyes. Sex excluded.
While it's sad what happened to those soldiers who died in the helo crash, especially since SF's are near irreplacable and the bravest of the brave, let's be honest, there's no f&*k!ng reason for that to have happened in the first place. 10,000+ soldiers dead in the last 10 years is too high of a cost to bare!!! I wish the past and current administration would have the guts to man up and withdraw from all overseas bases and conflicts (with the possible exception of S. Korea).
You guys mentioned the British and the Russian's invading Afghanistan and failing miserably which is what is currently happening in Afghanistan (killing Bin-Laden by US SFs was a major victory but not as major as if we ever eliminated the Taliban, which is impossible) but as a student of history let me remind you of a more recent event which was the conflict in Chechnya, the Chechen-Russian war of 1994-1995 and 1999-2001. Russian invaded one of the smallest "countries" in the world and still failed miserably loosing face albeit having 10x more forces than the Chechen Rebels and superior weaponry. Guess what, the Chechen's resisted the Russian occupation in some of the most remote areas in the world (Kavkaz mountains) and fought for their nationality first, religion second, and tribal/fmaily honor third. Even now, while the Russian's have instituted a puppet president over there (who tends to be quite similar to Karzai in his bravado talk yet little tangible action) the killings by rebels continue to happen on a daily basis, especially bombings, assassinations, and kidnappings. The press rarely mentions this anymore but the conflict is ongoing albeit Russia has withdrawn most essential forces. This has been happening for 9 years now since the office end of the war!!! This is what we can expect in Iraq/Afghanistan, this conflict will continue for at least a decade and in a way is a god-send for the US military-industrial complex providing a steady "source of income" and continuing to feed our defense contractors. Just wanted to mention this as history repeats itself and unfortunately too often we don't look at our past mistakes and don't learn from them. Be it Bush or Obama they are both heading in the wrong direction.
The good news though is that I do have a solution! If Aliblahba knew anything about US history (which you probably don't as you're brainwashed having mentioned that you served in the marines) you would know that one of the most successful policies in US history was the policy of isolationism practiced in the 1820's when James Monroe was president. He was famous for issuing the Monroe Doctrine which basically stated no interference in overseas affairs (unless attacked first) and also need for US sovereignty:
"The Monroe Doctrine asserted that the Americas were not to be further colonized by European countries but that the United States would neither interfere with existing European colonies nor meddle in the internal concerns of European countries. The Doctrine was issued at a time when many Latin American countries were on the verge of becoming independent from the Spanish Empire. The United States, reflecting concerns raised by Great Britain, ultimately hoped to avoid having any European power take over Spain's colonies."
I pray to God that we go back to those days and not have freakin' bases all over the world and be spending all the taxpayers money on wars and military-industrial complex and running an all-time high debt which will be felt by many generations to come.