[Samseau]

Nemencine Wrote:

I DID NOT decline to engage all sociological points, only the one specifically related to race. I was very specific.

Samseau was making the point that collectively, only whitemen can create this kind of civilization. How are you going to argue for, or against, that position without endlessly swimming in the seas of conjectures? Tell Samseau that the ancient Greeks would probably had the exact same parochial view with regards to the barbaric Germans? and yet, these uncivilized barbaric germans later went to create incredible breakthroughs. A counter claiming that since the greeks and germans are both white, as such they are same category, is simply a perspective you have living in this day and age.

I dont want to swim endlessly in the sea of conjectures.

Anyways, that is the sociological points i declined to address: that only the whitemen can create this kind of civilization. I submitted the FACTs of asian publications in science and engineering and leave the discussion at that. I like to hew my discussion as closely as possible to verifiable data, when it starts veering off too much into the hypotheticals, i am off. In my view, that is a sound personal policy.

So, again, i did not avoid sociological arguments, ONLY THE ONES DEALING WITH RACE.

Excuse me? You were the one who brought up race in the opening post. I was responding to that. I think it's a bit disingenuous to claim you can't talk about sociological matters in regards to race after you were the one who originally brought the topic out for discussion. Right from your post on part 4:

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This goes to my view on discussion of genetic intelligence in the Manosphere. When germline genetic engineering or some cocktail protein of NR2B from this research is finally approved; this will render IQ boasting mute. Because you can simply manufacture higher IQ out of almost nothing, so those boasting about their IQs, or trying to preserve their race IQ are just wasting their time.

And I objected on the grounds that it is not merely IQ that generates scientific breakthroughs, or even the race of the individual, but the race of the society itself. So far you haven't given any solid objection to that other than, "Just because it hasn't happened before doesn't mean it can't!"

Which is like saying just because the sun rose yesterday doesn't means it will rise against tomorrow. Very weak.