I get so sick of these idiots conflating desire with entitlement, or twisting expressing simple preferences into demanding that women everywhere conform to those preferences. Excuse me, but I never said I was entitled to an 8-some with Victoria's Secret runway models. Most guys just want a girlfriend that is not hideous to look at it, has a pleasant and kind personality, and doesn't create too much drama. The anger and frustration that draws men to the manosphere is generally not that women reject them right off the bat and won't give them a chance, even though they are a "nice guy" that is nice to women. That is 7th grade shit. No, the anger and frustration comes from trying to to find that woman that is a quality relationship prospect, somebody that is not hideous to look at, has a pleasant and kind personality, and doesn't create too much drama. But that increasingly is hard to find. I know there are men who don't want relationships and just want to rack up notches, but I suspect that even in the manosphere most men at some point would prefer a solid and stable relationship.
For the first time ever, a majority of adults (51 percent) that are unmarried outnumber adults who are married (49 percent). Why do you think that is? Well, for starters, with birth control, both men and women can control for an unplanned pregnancy a lot better than before. Secondly, with the gains women have made in education and the work force, women simply do not need men's provisioning abilities like their mothers and grandmothers did. Of course, if a man is financially clearly on another level than the woman he is dating, that still helps him and earns him points in her eyes..but being a woman's financial peer and attaining the status of stable, white-collar employment just doesn't matter to educated, professional women.
So when a woman has the ability to greatly reduce her chances of an unplanned pregnancy, and when a guy's status as a financial peer does nothing for her one way or the other, men become vehicles for entertainment and recreation just as much as their traditional roles as prospective relationship/life partners/bread winners. Women can chase after the higher status males hoping they can secure a commitment from them, and in the interim, they can make do with the men who are more of their peers as placeholders for the commitments and attachments that they really want. And if you are outside those 15-20% of men, it is not impossible but you have to really have tight Game and put yourself out there to meet your relationship needs.
I think the anger and frustration that draw men to the manosphere is more about the games that women play in the dating scene, the mixed messages that they send, the flakiness and unreliability ( making plans, cancelling on you at the last minute, abruptly dropping you as a dating prospect when you've been out multiple times, even when they pursue communication and initiate the connection first). I certainly agree that among the ranks of men, there are those who give women the same kind of frustration and anger. So I'm not asking for sympathy here, or officially petitioning the Liberal Social Justice Warriors for official victim status and permission to whine endlessly on the Internet about how hard my life is.
But don't fucking talk down to me and patronize and condescend to me and tell me to Know My Place and accept a mediocre fate. It's 2014, not 1954. There really isn't that much more of a head start anymore that I get by virtue of being a straight white male. There are privileges and perks that women get from this 'patriarchy" that they don't seem too keen on giving up.
Unlike the MRAs and Jezebel commenters, I am not asking for anybody to cry for me. I am not asking for anybody's sympathy. But don't fucking try to tell me that my life doesn't have struggles, obstacles and adversity because of my straight white male "privilege", or that I don't have the right to try and improve my circumstances because there are women, gays, blacks or trans people who theoretically have it worse. Fuck that.
There is a bitterness and cynicism that permeates the manosphere that I don't like and makes me sometimes take a step back so that I don't get subsumed with that attitude. But I just cannot stand condescending white-knighting garbage like this.
For the first time ever, a majority of adults (51 percent) that are unmarried outnumber adults who are married (49 percent). Why do you think that is? Well, for starters, with birth control, both men and women can control for an unplanned pregnancy a lot better than before. Secondly, with the gains women have made in education and the work force, women simply do not need men's provisioning abilities like their mothers and grandmothers did. Of course, if a man is financially clearly on another level than the woman he is dating, that still helps him and earns him points in her eyes..but being a woman's financial peer and attaining the status of stable, white-collar employment just doesn't matter to educated, professional women.
So when a woman has the ability to greatly reduce her chances of an unplanned pregnancy, and when a guy's status as a financial peer does nothing for her one way or the other, men become vehicles for entertainment and recreation just as much as their traditional roles as prospective relationship/life partners/bread winners. Women can chase after the higher status males hoping they can secure a commitment from them, and in the interim, they can make do with the men who are more of their peers as placeholders for the commitments and attachments that they really want. And if you are outside those 15-20% of men, it is not impossible but you have to really have tight Game and put yourself out there to meet your relationship needs.
I think the anger and frustration that draw men to the manosphere is more about the games that women play in the dating scene, the mixed messages that they send, the flakiness and unreliability ( making plans, cancelling on you at the last minute, abruptly dropping you as a dating prospect when you've been out multiple times, even when they pursue communication and initiate the connection first). I certainly agree that among the ranks of men, there are those who give women the same kind of frustration and anger. So I'm not asking for sympathy here, or officially petitioning the Liberal Social Justice Warriors for official victim status and permission to whine endlessly on the Internet about how hard my life is.
But don't fucking talk down to me and patronize and condescend to me and tell me to Know My Place and accept a mediocre fate. It's 2014, not 1954. There really isn't that much more of a head start anymore that I get by virtue of being a straight white male. There are privileges and perks that women get from this 'patriarchy" that they don't seem too keen on giving up.
Unlike the MRAs and Jezebel commenters, I am not asking for anybody to cry for me. I am not asking for anybody's sympathy. But don't fucking try to tell me that my life doesn't have struggles, obstacles and adversity because of my straight white male "privilege", or that I don't have the right to try and improve my circumstances because there are women, gays, blacks or trans people who theoretically have it worse. Fuck that.
There is a bitterness and cynicism that permeates the manosphere that I don't like and makes me sometimes take a step back so that I don't get subsumed with that attitude. But I just cannot stand condescending white-knighting garbage like this.