Quote: (08-16-2012 02:14 AM)dog24 Wrote:
Quote: (08-16-2012 01:17 AM)soup Wrote:
Instead of trying to be the Alpha leader of society, might it not be better to just embrace the more mysterious Sigma/solo side?
Sigma, loner, late bloomer, baby face, introvert, ectomorph checking in. I think most of us possess one if not all of those traits.
For me society used to reject me when i was omega in my teens, then i matured in a lot of ways, and society kind of invited me to join. Suddenly the cool guys tried to befriend me, bishes stop treating me like garbage and acknowledge my existence.
After learning game, and reading about social dinamics/status wars i decided i wasnt going to play that game. Once you understand why your "friend" is trying to amog you in front of the whole group or why the prettiest girl is looking down on you because you dont have enough "social proof" it just becomes stupid, i personally sometimes see this people like poor animals that dont understand their primal instincts so they live their lives trying to rationalize their shitty actions in behave of the almighty status.
Dont forget that most people arent as self-aware as all of us at this forum.
For my point of view i can tell you people treat me in a very black or white way. Some respect and even admire me, some outright hate me, usually the no value leeches.
My brother and some friends come to tell me from time to time that some bish finds me "intriguing". I doubt they would think that way of me if i was rightdown ugly, i know cause ive been there, if youre not phisically attractive then youre just creepy loner guy.
Some of my friends used to joke about me being autistic, but when i get one on one with a female they always tell me that im not how they imagined me to be, and even after getting to know each other they think i have a misterious/dark side.
So to answer your question NO, social alpha beats sigma everyday.
Some girls would fuck you just for status, if youre a sigma you cant give her that.
If any of you want to enlarge the pool of women willing to meet you without cold approach, you must play the social game and try to climb the latter.
I prefer not to, but it definitely makes things harder.
Dude, your life story is almost a mirror 1 to 1 story of mine. Including the ectomorph bit!
I think we're all social climbers here. I know true alphas who have some sort of charismatic edge to them which is a gift that some of us may not have. My one friend was definitely in that boat. I would classify that as alpha.
Most people I view as below me or at my level, but there is a unique type of person who is a step above me regardless of the actual things i classify as important markers in the game we call life (eg status and money). These guys are all over the place and can clearly get pontang. in my mind if you have charisma you're above me on the hierarchy, but most of these charismatic guys don't have a single shred of self preservation in their body. They're stars that burn brightly and will eventually fade out quickly when their youth fades in the mid to late 20s.