Quote: (10-26-2013 04:32 PM)Starke Wrote:
Quote: (10-26-2013 04:24 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:
The American poor live much better than the poor any where else and they live better than a good % of the entire world. They get housing, food, healthcare, phones, etc. etc.
Socialism = feminism and I want none of that in my life.
If you spent even a few days in Western Europe, you'd realise that this is entirely false.
In Scandinavia, the lower-class have access to all levels of education - from primary to tertiary - for free.
If they get sick, they have access to first-class healthcare, free at the point of purchase.
A lower-class American who applies themself can go to a 2nd or 3rd-tier university - assuming they don't win the scholarship lottery. Most will struggle to finish high school.
They may 'get phones', but their lives are devoid of opportunity.
Starke please define what "free" is because you, like most Europeans, don't seem to have a grasp on where exactly these goods and services come from and who pays for them at the end of the day.
I collected paychecks in both utopian Europe (several countries) and the US working in highpaying jobs, and in the US my standard of living was much higher. My healthcare was better (and cheaper, not to mention it was something I had the choice of selecting), I mean for fucks sake even in Europe I have to pay cash for my contact lenses because they aren't covered. In the US, I owned a vehicle, a house, land. I could do whatever the fuck I wanted to on my property and spend my money on whatever I wanted because I wasn't beaten into a pulp by a tax bracket at the end of every month.
In Europe, if you're poor I'm sure it's a great place to live in, but not everyone is poor and an entire society suffers when it's structure to only accommodate them. The only people who actually like Europe's systems are those who don't make a lot of cash. Doctors and engineers should be paid more and get more out of society than someone packing boxes. If you're a successful dude with ambition, it's delusional to think Europe is better than the US in terms of providing you with a good future.