Quote: (10-25-2013 10:31 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:
Quote: (10-25-2013 10:25 AM)kosko Wrote:
Quote: (10-25-2013 06:02 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:
Quote: (10-25-2013 05:37 AM)Flint Wrote:
Quote: (10-25-2013 05:18 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:
Amazing in all the leftist countries and as the western world goes more leftist, the gap between the rich and poor only grows.
I look forward to see the evidence that corroborates your claim.
In the past decades, the UK and the US have introduced the most neoliberal economic policies in the West. Welfare state benefits, too, have been reduced (and no, Obamacare is not gonna change the overall trend) and these two countries have much wider income gaps than "socialist" Scandinavia.
The income gap in the USA continues to grow, as the govt. moves to the left. As the US govt. supports more socialism and feminism, the middle class shrinks, small businesses are crushed with regulations, and the large corporations run by the wealthy elite soak up the money at the top.
As far as the Scandinavia countries, you have a few very wealthy elites and everyone else has no chance but to be a worker bee cog in the system.
The USA has been moving more to the right. Both look like the same in its extremes but Flint is right.
America was more "left" in the 80's then it is now. Welfare has been gutted and for what Americans pay into the system you recieve little.
Obamacsre isn't socialist healthcare it's a corporate wealth transfer.
America is a right wing faccist state not a "socialist" one.
In regards to Brand he is smart as hell but I'm guarded. Any mass mobilization that is automatically accepted by the masses is a dupe and not ideal. The masses don't know shit and simply want somebody else to package a commodity of "change" and "revolution" for them to consume. Hashtags will blaze up twitter and people will get into meaningful discussion over three lines of text and yet nothing wi change. Which is the point. The masses hold as stop checks for the status quo, any mass movement is a push to try and restore what we already have.
The country has moved strongly to the left.
The spread of feminism. The huge increases of those dependent on the govt. financially. The massive about of debt and govt. spending. Those are dreams of the leftists.
The amount of welfare you receive for what is paid in is going to be low. It is a govt. program, which means tons of waste, fraud, and inefficient work.
Obamacare, as far as I can tell, was designed to fail so it could usher us into a socialist healthcare system.
Strongly in what ways? Obama moved the needle to right. I live in Canada which is a socialist wasteland compared to you guys and we are just left of center after veering more right. America has a long ways to go. You confusing socialism with programs that were meant to create a dependent and unwealthy class of Americans for the corporate class to control and exploit.
The govt has little cohesive power and is dependent on the debt it receives from the corporate class. Your govt and economy is structured to enrich oligarchs and cronies. This isn't socialism its a corporate fascist model.
The corporate fascists created Femenism as a means to extract wealth, if there is little to no re-distribution then it isn't a socialist model.