Look at those comments:
First definition of sexual intercourse on Merriam-Webster:
Consent is irrelevant as to whether a penetrative act occurred. Before any issue of consent is relevant, penetration must be established. Sure, in this case, the man freely admits to penetrating the female - making the state's case fairly straightforward (assuming he isn't lying).
Another mindless commenter wanting to prove they know more than police about the issue of rape. "Amounted" language is easily interpreted as the cops telling the man the chain of actions he engaged in will result in a charge of rape at law. Which feeds into this...
Good idea for our "All-American Teacher" to use the language of rape not sexual assault. Sexual assault does entertain a wide range behaviors, some not so serious, some very serious.
Rape, traditionally, is male carnal knowledge of a female against her will, sometimes a forcible requirement is in the definition. In the abstract - and I agree completely with her - it is black or white. However, in reality, it rarely is straightforward like this situation. Since it happened in Utah & seems to open and shut case watch to see if this blows up in liberal/feminists spheres.
In what sense, counselor? Ignorance about rape? Already in the comments, you & your allies don't have a logical grasp of the issues around rape. Further, once again, what did quote by Todd Akin prove exactly? I distinctly remember some of the most hateful rhetoric tossed my way when I ask the person proffering the comment as evidence of rape culture as to what it proved.
I never once got a rational response. A bizarre mix of superiority, accusations of misogyny & rape culture, anger, etc. I was careful to not stir the hornets nest too much, as the issue of rape will never be rationally discussed - especially not with the people who make it their personal cause to end rape.
This is a case of women - and some self-hating men - who need the issue of rape to stick around so they can bolster their self-identity through being against rape. They more they need rape as an issue, they more scary rape culture and more rape culture supporters there are. Very predictable, but very sad.
Let me guess, this guy is against stereotypes.
What the fuck is the hate around frat guys about? I have been "accused" of being a frat boy before. What the hell is that all about?
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The headline and lede of this story should change "had sex with" to "raped", because an unconscious person cannot give consent to have sex, and without consent it is rape.
First definition of sexual intercourse on Merriam-Webster:
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heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis
Consent is irrelevant as to whether a penetrative act occurred. Before any issue of consent is relevant, penetration must be established. Sure, in this case, the man freely admits to penetrating the female - making the state's case fairly straightforward (assuming he isn't lying).
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Absolutely. Thank you. And the St. George police need a little education, too, for telling the perp his actions "amounted" to rape. It's rape.
Another mindless commenter wanting to prove they know more than police about the issue of rape. "Amounted" language is easily interpreted as the cops telling the man the chain of actions he engaged in will result in a charge of rape at law. Which feeds into this...
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Exactly. Rape - is not on any "spectrum" of behavior - period.
It is either consensual - or not.
Good idea for our "All-American Teacher" to use the language of rape not sexual assault. Sexual assault does entertain a wide range behaviors, some not so serious, some very serious.
Rape, traditionally, is male carnal knowledge of a female against her will, sometimes a forcible requirement is in the definition. In the abstract - and I agree completely with her - it is black or white. However, in reality, it rarely is straightforward like this situation. Since it happened in Utah & seems to open and shut case watch to see if this blows up in liberal/feminists spheres.
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This harkens back to last year's elections, when some idiot southern senate candidate claimed a woman raped "couldn't conceive, under the circumstances.
In what sense, counselor? Ignorance about rape? Already in the comments, you & your allies don't have a logical grasp of the issues around rape. Further, once again, what did quote by Todd Akin prove exactly? I distinctly remember some of the most hateful rhetoric tossed my way when I ask the person proffering the comment as evidence of rape culture as to what it proved.
I never once got a rational response. A bizarre mix of superiority, accusations of misogyny & rape culture, anger, etc. I was careful to not stir the hornets nest too much, as the issue of rape will never be rationally discussed - especially not with the people who make it their personal cause to end rape.
This is a case of women - and some self-hating men - who need the issue of rape to stick around so they can bolster their self-identity through being against rape. They more they need rape as an issue, they more scary rape culture and more rape culture supporters there are. Very predictable, but very sad.
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I'm sure we'll have all kinds of frat boys pleading the same thing in the near future.
Let me guess, this guy is against stereotypes.
What the fuck is the hate around frat guys about? I have been "accused" of being a frat boy before. What the hell is that all about?