[ElJefe]

(05-10-2013 10:44 AM)j r Wrote:  

I don't buy the racialist arguments. 200 years ago, English descendants argued that America shouldn't let in the Irish and the Germans, because they wouldn't culturally assimilate. 150 years ago, nativists argued the same thing about Southern and Eastern Europeans. As late as WWI, people were using IQ tests to argue for Jewish inferiority. They were all wrong. It's nice to think that we have it right this time, but I don't buy it.

Also, the whole don't let in too many brown people cause they're all socialists argument is pure bullshit. The biggest statists I know aren't brown, they're white progressives.

You're missing the point: ignoring the evidence that even after several generations, Hispanics do not converge to the mean, by shrugging it of as "I don't believe that". You don't have to believe. It's a fact whether you care or not.

For one, this is not a character judgment. It's an observation. And one that has enormous economic and social consequences.

Ignoring these huge consequences is what this man failed to do. And now the inquisition wants him destroyed. It's a gross perversion of a thoughtful discourse. It's hard to see a future for the US where basic reasoning skills and simple observations are regarded as heresy by a self-appointed priesthood of ideologues and fanatics. This is as bad if not worse than Fox News.

Second, you also ignore the huge consequences large-scale immigration for instance has for unemployment amongst African-Americans, or Hispanics already in this country.

Check out Cornell's Vernon Briggs and Harvard's George Borjas for some sound research on immigration and its consequences. No one is saying immigration is all bad. But it's not all good either.