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(01-04-2013 08:32 PM)Ovid Wrote:  

Athlone, this article has really been making me ponder today. Thank you for penning it. A couple of interrelated questions I'd like to hear your thoughts on, if I may:

1. How did the tenets of the feminist ideology come to have such sway in the black community? How did it come to be so matriarchal? There has always been poverty, and it was hardly a new thing for blacks in America, so why did single motherhood become the norm? What caused American blacks to abandon their traditional ways of living in such numbers?

1. Welfare: the structure of how the support was provided incentivized single motherhood and actually made the idea seem very plausible-it later became a meme among black women ("I don't need no man!!"). The idea that a father was unnecessary (supported by the feminists) became plausible when the government took the provider role.

2. Drugs: increased incarceration and death rates for males, taking more and more black men out of the picture and entrenching the matriarchy.

3. Racism: Shut out of blacks from GI Bill benefits, as well as redlining and other discrimination kept many blacks from achieving the american dream, entering the middle class and shielding themselves from the two factors I mentioned above. This kept more blacks in the lower class than there should have been, and accelerated the negative impact of the drugs and welfare/feminism.

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2. If the phenomena we deplore manifested themselves first in the black community due to a unique confluence of factors (feminism, poverty, racism) why are they now appearing in the white?

White men are now increasingly being marginalized in a way that, before, only black and other minority men had been. Their women are increasingly their lead in education and employment, and the number of "eligible" white men is declining. Fewer and fewer white men are actually able to provide the way they once did.

More and more of them are being left behind without the security that American society gave them in prior generations (when they were acknowledged to be at the top of the racial totem pole and treated accordingly).

In response to this, a larger number of white women are beginning to consider more and more of their male counterparts to be superfluous in a way that black women had long ago started to view their own male counterparts (increased hypergamy, #3 on my list). They are adopting a more adversarial and at times hostile attitude to some of the men they encounter (#5 on my list) because, as their lead in education and employment grows, they begin to start thinking they are better than their men and really do not need them. The feminists do little to counter these notions, and in fact feed them.

This mentality has not taken over the white community yet, but it is a growing phenomenon there.

This is leading to an increase in the illegitimacy rate among whites (#2 on my list), as white women increasingly opt not to bother with the men they mate with on a long term basis.
More marginalized white men will also likely mean higher rates of white male criminality and drug abuse/dealing (#4 on my list).