Quote: (10-03-2012 10:10 AM)Smitty Wrote:
Come on man, I can counter each one of your links with Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Dailycaller.com, Tucker Carlson and you would call me biased.
Would I say that? Strange, I don't recall having done so before nor do I recall a tendency on my part to engage in the ad-hominem. Is that what I would actually say, or is that merely a estimation on your part with no real basis in fact?
Please, fellow forumer I've never met, tell me more about the words you'd like to put in my mouth and the conclusions I'd make before I make them. You clearly know more about myself than I do.
On a serious note: I do consider the likes of Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh to be lacking and ineffective. Merely stating this is not a rebuttal, and not an action I would take as I am not fond of the logical fallacy. Were you to present me with said sources to counter my claims regarding the hostility shown by the right to certain groups (and please, you're welcome to do so), I would attempt to refute them on their facts which, given my perception of their lack of credibility, I would likely not find too difficult a task.
That being said, if you don't like the sources I've presented to support my claims with regards to the nature of some aspects of the Republican party and its hostility to minorities, refute them (all of them) on fact. I will not merely accept your word with regards to their lack of credibility (I'm quite comfortable with them)-I want a demonstration of their inaccuracy (read: why their credibility cannot be affirmed), a demonstration of the kind I would provide were you to show me a Fox News source I found lacking. What you've offered so far cannot be considered a rebuttal, and is more accurately termed a lazy dismissal by ad-hominem.
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