Quote: (06-10-2012 09:48 AM)ImWaitingForTheMan Wrote:
Quote: (06-10-2012 09:40 AM)Keyser Söze Wrote:The med school thing was just to illustrate that I've been there and know people that go there, so in that area we are equal. I don't give a shit about my personal experiences, and you actually have none, except hanging out with some students? You have come to a completely erroneous conclusion that all supplements are worthless. It's so extreme and absolute that it's ignorant.
You making an excessively long post about your travails of a year of medical school do not make you the RVF resident science expert.
Just as in professional cycling, where people are insanely competitive and will take anything that actually works, so it goes for med students and residents. Think about this scientifically - across the 140 or so AMA schools, students take a wide variety of different vitamins and jellyfish powders to make their neurons dance faster. However, regardless of the school or student or geographical location, their is a clear and consistent use of a handful of relevant substances: caffeine, prescription amphetamines and amphetamine analogues, and modafinil.
This has nothing to do with the taste, color, labeling, or fashionability of the aforementioned three. It has to do with their consistent and reliable and reproducible results.
I am always open to being wrong. If you can provide any reliable, double blind, randomized studies for a specific supplement for a specific malady/ailment, I would be glad to see them.
I never posted the full extent of my experience, and generally shy away from being too autobiographical/identifiable here.
I also don't think that all supplements are worthless, just the vast majority.
In the specific case of "brain supplements," my conclusion is that if there really were anything significantly effective beyond the 3 I identified, you would see it rapidly adopted and consistently used among hypercompetitive groups like med students/residents and others.