[Deusleveult]

(05-01-2019 05:15 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  

This thread did not go in the direction I was hoping for...

FWIW, I love this country deeply, perhaps even more so than my own, but it is an abusive relationship. Any of you ever been in love with a hot bipolar artist chick with suicidal tendencies? That basically how it feel everyday being in France. For some reasons all the girls I've dated more or less fit that arechetype too

As Deusvult said, Christian virtues died in France long before Notre Dame burnt down. Ironic really since France is the cradle of western civilization. Charlemagne whose statue watches over Notre Dame was the "Christianity fuck yeah" guy who basically established western Christendom.

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But I would say it's still a minority who are like that.

The majority even though not perfect are not that degenerate.

French patriots like Deusvult usually say france is not Paris. Therein lies the problem. Not that degenerate is not good enough when the people with the most decision making power are debauched heathens. All it takes for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing. The french forgot that blood and conflict is the price to pay to maintain civilization. For decades now you have let the heathens in Paris take the reins and spread its corruption everywhere. What miserable resistance is offered in the form of peaceful riots, which, as we all saw, been working out spectacularly so far.

You push the typical American enough and he will pick up his weapon and hurt you. Push a French even to the point of breaking and he would still prefer to lecture you than fight you. The french would refuse to deport 100 rapefugee if there's even a chance that one of them is innocent.

Its really sad because the french model was based on christian goodness and for me, the french exemplified the human capacity to better his world. Like you said heuristics, who does not want good wine, good food, beautiful art and history? Who does not want good health care and feel safe that you will be taken care of in case shit happen? In their hubris the french forgot that all goodness in the world has its dark side and they blindly embrace it whole. What's left is a system where the righteous are marginalized and weakened while the wicked got free reign to drown the world in debauchery. Well shit, God does forgive everything right? So let me pull this last coke filled swinger party before I go to him.

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Even though I'm saddened to see the state of my home country, the Bible remind me that it doesn't really matter in the end if the majority is degenerate, there just need to be a few righteous people left.

No offence to Deuslevult and I have great respects for his posts, but to me this exemplifies the problem I talked about above. If a patriotic, non degenerate French think like this, how do you think the degenerate think?

The French have this weird belief that no matter how bad things get, in the end it will just be ok if you just carry on with your life quietly. Terrors attacks? No problem. More taxes? Suck, let's bitch about it like we already do anyway, and please dont get violent. Notre Dame burned down? Suck, but it will all be fine, don't do anything stupid.

You guys remember that cucked French guy whose wife got killed in the terror attack and then wrote a letter about how "the terrorists will not have my hate, because hating them means they win" That's the mentality here.

I've been posting since 2015 and shit have gotten progressively worse since then. Every time shit happen some members would say "maybe this will wake the French up" Yet everytime, nada. Rapefugees and terror attacks? Let's elect Macron! Macron does what he is supposed to be doing. Let's peacefully riot. Notre Dame burned down? Let's stop all the riot and hold hands and candles. Until all of France burns.

I'm heartbroken to the point that I can't even care anymore. As said this country has done a lot for me, and I love the French people. When things are good they are the nicest bunch to hang with. They love food, love going out and trying new things, and contrary to popular beliefs the competent people here are damn well competent and get shit done. Seeing all this calamity befall them and yet listening to them bitching and doing nothing, is like watching someone you love get violently raped yet still telling you everything will be fine.

I think you are misunderstanding my comment Dalaran.

I understand that on the surface it might look like one of those luckwarm christian type "let's gather and pray" while doing nothing and going back to your quiet life shortly after.

But trust me, I am not fooling myself on he situation in France and in the world.

We are entering some really bad times but my instinct tells me that even though it is getting bad by the day, it's not yet time to go out and fight.

What will I do honestly? I'm more of a solitary guy, so I will be a lone wolf. Let's say I can find a gun or something, I will go and shoot a mosque, a synagogue, Macron, l'Elysée? Let's say I can do it, they will find me straight away, either shoot me or imprison me and nothing will have change.

People think they can be badasses changing the course of history just by themselves but it's bullshit. You can't fight the system by yourself.

I myself am part breton and part vendéen. During the Revolution my ancestors fought to preserve Catholic France and you know the result.
I will be glad to sacrifice myself like they did for catholic ideals and more so for the fight against evil forces but today is not yet the time.

It is difficult to stay on the sidelines and temper yourself when you see the situation but you have to. If not you will just do something stupid and worthless.

That's why I've put that quote of the Bible, to stay positive and uplifted, to not succumb to depressing and defeatist thoughts.

And concretely what you can do is getting closer to God and on a day to day basis learning skills that will be helpful to survive in the near future. Basically everything that our grand parents still knew how to do like farming, fishing, hunting and so on.

You are killing two birds with one stone, learning to be as self sufficient as possible while giving less and less to the system that enslave you.