The "average guy" likely gets married at some point in his 20s or shortly after college, works his 9 to 5, clocks in clocks out, lives for the weekend, drinks beer while watching sports, and sticks to his old group of friends throughout his life without really venturing out much. Forget "hobbies" or taking risks needed in life in order to be successful and make strides to what you want to do, especially moving to a completely different city, state, or even country that you find to be a better fit for you. Reading? Working out? Healthy lifestyle? Forget that shit, get fat and accumulate the diseases as you get old and become a former shell of yourself. All the while getting on a high horse and acting like you are better than everyone because you decided to marry, have kids, get a mortgage, and live the "American Dream" because society told you to do so.
So OP, listen to everyone on this thread, have fun being average as fuck. You already see the responses, attitude, and demeanor in the posts. The bitterness, the genuine hatred towards players, moral self-righteousness, and the pull to get you tied down to a house, wife, and kids. I'll drop the reality and leave it there.
You came to this forum for a reason, because you did not want to be like everyone else. The reason you came here was because you did not want the average life of a wife and kids before 30, house in the suburbs, a mortgage, and dead dreams due to listening to what society wanted you to do instead of doing what you wanted to do.
At one point, every guy had the dreams of being that guy with a nice paying job, resources, cool lifestyle, and a revolving door of women. Well the truth is OP, that dreams requires a shit-ton of fucking work. Lots of guys claim to be scholarly experts on it, very few can actually do it because of the sacrifices and hustle that go into it. What you are seeing on this thread are indirect stories of failure from guys who tried and gave up, now they're telling everyone to have a wife and kid before 30 and almost forcing their beliefs on to others.
The other point, if you truly chase what you desire, be ready to hear it. Keep your goals to yourself, a lot of times they will arouse envy and dislike from other guys who might not have the means to succeed and are now getting on their moral high-ground to make you feel bad for having ambitions.
If you want to fuck a shit-ton of women throughout your life, do it and don't feel a drop of regret over it. Any guy giving you shit for it is sour because he has limited options there and washed out of the game.
If you want to get married to a model, go for it without any remorse.
If you want to LTR without a marriage, go do that.
You know what you want better than anyone else does, be true to that. If your dreams are ambitious though, be ready to hear the critics as you have in this thread.
So OP, listen to everyone on this thread, have fun being average as fuck. You already see the responses, attitude, and demeanor in the posts. The bitterness, the genuine hatred towards players, moral self-righteousness, and the pull to get you tied down to a house, wife, and kids. I'll drop the reality and leave it there.
You came to this forum for a reason, because you did not want to be like everyone else. The reason you came here was because you did not want the average life of a wife and kids before 30, house in the suburbs, a mortgage, and dead dreams due to listening to what society wanted you to do instead of doing what you wanted to do.
At one point, every guy had the dreams of being that guy with a nice paying job, resources, cool lifestyle, and a revolving door of women. Well the truth is OP, that dreams requires a shit-ton of fucking work. Lots of guys claim to be scholarly experts on it, very few can actually do it because of the sacrifices and hustle that go into it. What you are seeing on this thread are indirect stories of failure from guys who tried and gave up, now they're telling everyone to have a wife and kid before 30 and almost forcing their beliefs on to others.
The other point, if you truly chase what you desire, be ready to hear it. Keep your goals to yourself, a lot of times they will arouse envy and dislike from other guys who might not have the means to succeed and are now getting on their moral high-ground to make you feel bad for having ambitions.
If you want to fuck a shit-ton of women throughout your life, do it and don't feel a drop of regret over it. Any guy giving you shit for it is sour because he has limited options there and washed out of the game.
If you want to get married to a model, go for it without any remorse.
If you want to LTR without a marriage, go do that.
You know what you want better than anyone else does, be true to that. If your dreams are ambitious though, be ready to hear the critics as you have in this thread.