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subterfuge journal

subterfuge journal

Went out last night with 4 friends to see if we could creep out any girls on Halloween.

At the bar and my friend is doing what he calls a ‘warm up’ set on a couple of old birds! After a few mins they eject/blow him out and sit down by themselves. My friends all go out to smoke but it’s cold so I decide to stay inside and do my own attempt on the old girls. I open with ”Where’s your Halloween costumes?”

They throw it back at me because i’m also in normal clothes, but I tease them and ignore that fact and tell them that they’re boring and then start listing outfits that they should be wearing, and sexualise it a little by mentioning sexy ‘un-dead’ nurses in short skirts etc. I riff for a few seconds about how my friends are smoking so I thought i’d bug them for a while and within a few minutes they were asking my name and showing me lots of interest. My friends came back and told me they were moving too a different bar, and the girls said ”No! Don’t take Scars! We like him!”. I told the girls to come with us and they did.

In the next venue i’m flirting and dancing with the younger one (who is still like a decade older than me at about 40. I’m actually not interested in either one of them) and then the older one comes over, pinches my ass, tells me she likes younger guys and basically puts it on a plate for me. I kind of carry on flirting, but i’m trying to reject her gently and within a few minutes both girls are now talking to some other older dudes who have luckily taken them off my hands.

I open another girl on the dance floor. Much more my type! Canadian. 22. I open again with the same opener. It leads too a discussion. We do the names and ages thing after she asks. She seems SUPER friendly and talkative, but I know that this isn’t necessarily much of an IOI because American and Canadian girls are about 200 times friendlier with strangers than Brit girls typically (unless they’re into your look) It’s going OK. I’m touching her when the opportunity arrises and teasing her and stuff, but at some point I drop some sort of ‘clanger’ that completely ruins the interaction and she basically grabs her friend and walks away lol. My bad lol

I go too a different bar. I open a girl sitting down. Same opener lol. She is very talkative so it’s a pretty big IOI. Very soon she’s talking about how she likes to be fucked and stuff. I wish I could remember how the conversation ‘went there’ so quickly. Not sure if it was something I ‘done’ and if it was just her. I was starring deep into her eyes on silences and stuff to increase the sexual tension. She was giving me that flirty look and putting her face super close to mine at times and it was just super obvious that the kiss was ‘on’. I went for it and We kissed. I was feeling her up and making out a fair bit and she’s rubbing my cock over my jeans. Couldn’t go to either of our places due to logistics. Bathroom was TINY, not that I think i could have persuaded her to bang in there anyway. I should in hindsight have tried to leave with her and pretend to be walking towards a cab rank and then tried to bang her in the street tbh, just for the reference experience of trying to do that lol. Anyway, she gives me her number and leaves.

Go inside to use the bathroom and on my way upstairs I opened a hot young girl with the same opener and she just looked at me like a homeless person and sort of ‘shooed’ me away and said ‘i’m not intertested. Bye!’. Strong ‘no girl’ (first of the night) but decide to try HABD’s suggested reply and tell her that she’s full of herself and that i’m just killing time until some actual cute girls got here. She said ”You do that then!” whilst in mid-‘backturne’ and walked off.

Go back outside to the same seat where I was kisisng the girl from ealier, and I notice another girl now sitting there. Fairly hot. Probably opened her with the same outfit opener. Can’t remember. She was sober/wasn’t drinking and was sitting there whilst her ‘slut’ friend (her words, not mine!) was inside ‘trying to find a black guy to bang her’. I spent the next 10 mins teasing her and talking nonsense and she really seemed to be enjoying herself. Ran a little routine that I like to do. She also called me out on kissing the other girl. Turns out she saw that lol. First of all I just denied it even though it’s a ridiculous lie and luckily she understood the humour in it and laughed. She said something again about me going around kissing girls and I said ‘Hey, it’s spring break, everyone’s doing it!!” and shje cracked up laughing (we don’t even have spring break here, really lol). Still, It was going very well, laughing at my jokes, asking me what sort of girls I like, lots of personal quesions etc HOWEVER, there just wasn’t that ‘green flashing light’ that was present with the girl that I kissed earlier, this time. Hard to describe. It was going well, but I just wasn’t getting the same ‘attraction IOI’s’ (KISS ME!! I’m into you!!) that the other girl was giving me. I was thinking about how I can advance this, trying to remember all the tips from various PUA vids about how to escalate and stuff

First move was so ramp up the kino under using some sort of palm reading shit lol. I done it but I don’t think that it really helped my cause. Her behaviour didn’t change. I didn’t really feel i ‘gained’ anything with it. Maybe I should have made the touch more lingering and ‘obvious’? And held her hand even after? Maybe she just actually thought I liked reading palms lol. Also worth mentioning that I messed it up a bit anyway. I forgot how the routines went and just talked complete bollox

Next move was ‘statements of intent’ as per Jeffy. Told her I thought she was kinda cute and said a few jeffy lines, but again, she didn’t really reciprocate and I didn’t feel i’d really ‘move along’. Tried to sexualis the convo a bit too and she played along, but still nothing like the blatant attraction that the girl I kissed gave me (which she was giving me in seconds after I opened, tbh.)

Only other move I could think of here was to just grab her and ‘go for it’ and try to kiss her! But my instincts told me that it would be a guaranteed painful rejection. (i’d also previous tried to ‘test the waters’ by kind of picking her up as she was sitting down, but she kind of pushed my hands away a little and didn’t want that to happen so I backed off, but that told me that going for a kiss was likely super low odds).

Was now a bit lost as to what to do and I knew that she’d be driving her friend back to where she lives soon (fairly far away aswell) so I told her to give me her number which she did.

We text a little this morning and in one of them she said something like ”Wait, so you forgot our kiss?!!! I’m hearbroken”

I don’t even remember kissing her but I was a little drunk! Maybe she’s just being ‘funny’ and it’s a joke lol.

Overall a fun night tbh, ALTHOUGH, i’m annoyed at 2 things.

1/not being able to escalate effectively and advance the interaction with the last girl. It was just so much easier with the other girl due to her body language and stuff. Not sure what else I could/should have done with the 2nd girl.

2/Even though i’m glad to have made some approaches as i’ve been a pussy recently and half ‘gave up’ on ‘game’/approaching to be honest so a bit out of practice, there were so many occasions where there were just stunning girls that I failed to open due to how hot they were lol. Always painful when you reject yourself tbh although it’s so hard to do because I know that 98% of the time it’s a hard ‘no girl’ who, no matter what I try, basically ignores me, and it does kill my ego/confidence for future appraoches, so I tent to float around hitting on 7’s

EDIT:

Hmmm….it appears I actually did kiss the last girl as well. Bizarre. I honestly don’t remember that at all!

#Texts from this morning

Her: ”Omg you don’t remember our kids????? I’m heart broken.”

Her: I mean ‘kiss’, not ‘kids’

Me: I don’t remember our kids OR our kiss. I’m not sure it happened. Not like me to do such a thing. Did you do it just to make your bouncer friend jealous?! haha

(some bouncer she knew was sniffing around her all night)

Her: No you kissed me and you where snogging some other bird right before me so you definitely do kiss stangers lol. No I didn’t do it to make him jealous I done it because it’s what you wanted
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