Quote: (09-22-2018 10:06 AM)Mizo1234 Wrote:
Quote: (09-22-2018 05:35 AM)Feldeinsamkeit Wrote:
Quote: (09-20-2018 11:03 AM)PapayaTapper Wrote:
Quote: (09-20-2018 10:53 AM)Mizo1234 Wrote:
I am not arguing against Hypergamy . But sometimes, you met “ taken” woman and you know she really likes you . But still can’t get her to cheat or to break up with her boyfriend
whats the explanation for this ?
Youre not Ryan Gosling
I encounter this problem frequently when out daygaming in Hamburg. Part of the explanation, other than the elephant in the room: you're not Ryan Gosling, is that women who you think really dig you actually are more attracted to the attention you're giving them. Women, of course, have always loved attention from men, especially when they're in a situation where they can't act on their impulses, i.e. they are taken or the guy is or both.
On the subject of validation seeking: I've noticed a very sharp uptick in the number of women who are looking around in public to see which guys are checking them out. When I first noticed this in the UK in 2017, I assumed it was a local phenomenon of slutty northern women or, at most, specific to the Anglosphere. But since coming back to Germany this year, I notice this phenomenon in full swing here, too. Don't forget: The bar for a woman to be interested in you because of the attention hit you provide is much lower than the bar to bang her, especially if she is already getting dicked by another dude on the regular.
While I agree with the attention part, I think most of us with time and experience can differentiate between attention seeking behaviors and real interest . I am not talking here about women who are looking to see who is checking them out. I am talking about women who :
1-Bite their lips when they saw me
2-check me out while I am not looking
3- play with her hair or earlobe while talking to me
4- their faces smile when I talk to them
Honestly man, I had enough share of attention whores in my past, I only go for the super sure signs.
Maybe bad game on my part .
The point I am trying to make is while hypergamy subconsciously controls the desire to date up or fuck up, it is still somehow conscious decision to act on this desire ( fear of consequence ).
Also, the definition of the best option for women change with her priorities . If she wants to marry, she will select the best options for the marriage . If she wants to fuck, she will select the best options to fuck. Those two best options could be two different type of guys.
But I've experienced more cases than I can count in which, during a direct daygame opener, the woman has demonstrated all of those signs and more, such as cutting the space between us, not letting go of my hand during the handshake, the sticky and sparkly eye magic and so on, yet when push came to shove, she just wasn't bothered about meeting up with me after she had milked the interaction for all of its validation value. It's not to say that I haven't gotten dates when those signs are present - it's definitely more likely, it's just that it's nowhere near as reliable an indicator for me as you claim it to be. I like PapayaTapper's simile drawn from the financial markets: Whether the price of, say, a currency or a stock increases or decreases, depends upon whether it is greed or fear which predominates between the participating investors at the time the trading takes place. It is precisely the same with women: In order to get a girl to cheat on her long-term boyfriend from a cold approach on the street, you either need to be an exceptionally alluring proposition - think millionaire or celebrity - or a physically incredibly alluring specimen, in order to outweigh a modern woman's propensity to be satisfied merely with the validation that she gets and continue on her way. Either that or I'm just too fucking old and ugly or have been running anti-game of late.
In short, I'm sceptical about the premise of your argument: Namely, that there a clear dividing line between a woman who's only interested in interacting with you for the validation and a woman who is "genuinely" interested in you, in a sexual way. I think you could previously draw such a distinction but these days the high that women get from the validation they receive delivers a bigger hit than does the sex. Furthermore, I feel that the attention crack pipe that is social media is leading women to search for bigger highs in real life encounters with men, in which a vast army of thirsty simps gather, ready at a moment's notice to satisfy an increasingly rapacious appetite for attention that modern women crave, motivated by nothing but the faintest and imagined whiff of vagina. Thirst traps will surely become an increasing phenomenon in the next few years, enabled by an insanely distorted dating market in which only an ever decreasing number of men will enjoy access to attractive women.