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(09-04-2018 09:08 AM)getdownonit Wrote:  

On another level, maybe deeper or shallower depending on your perspective, game is about getting what you want and achieving your goals.

Women are malleable creatures. Some see this as a negative, but it’s just our human nature. This is why they want strong men to keep them in line, and go off the rails when left to their own devices.

Women are not particularly good at choosing that high quality man to lead them, but that’s for another discussion.

Good game involves directing the particular woman to be who you want her to be.

You can’t turn a ho into a housewife, as the saying goes, but I’ve had plenty of non-wife material girls barefoot in the kitchen cooking up something passable thanks to setting expectations from the jump and using game to live the life I want to live in any given moment.

Life is all about reaching your potential and game is a subset of the multiple categories in achieving that.

In some of my LTR posts, I touch base on how much a woman will change for the better, when aiming to please you. Some is passive and quite a bit is direct which is precisely what I agree with in your great post.

A lot of women fail to choose high quality men because their behaviour, skill set and sometimes appearance doesn't justify attracting them. If men are bees, then women aren't the most beautiful flowers getting pollinated.

I co-sign everything in your post.

(09-04-2018 09:23 AM)Vill@in Wrote:  

True masters of game can read the situation and adjust accordingly.

I tend to go 80/20, but even that is perhaps too high and I really need to read each INDIVIDUAL interaction and adjust. I get called a 'player' and 'manwhore' a lot. So obviously I need to work on what vibes I am giving out and how they are being received and what she is feeling in that moment.

The difficultly for most guys is that when they get into a LTR/marriage, any Alpha characteristics are quickly erased by 100% Beta characteristics. They become pushovers, pussies, and then it's a very deep hole to dig out of. I'd even almost argue it's even more important to know game when you're in a LTR/marriage.

Instead of asking yourself "Is this Alpha?" you need to ask yourself "What behavior gives me the best chance of me succeeding?"

Agreed! The 'player' shit tests are indicative of something off with your vibe and what you're putting out there.

I will however say that most of the game and work is done pre-LTR as you enter a different bargaining period and your bargaining strength is higher when you have your shit sorted. Game then ends up being little fixes to re-direct the course of the relationship to the best path forward, for both of you.

(09-04-2018 10:41 AM)polar Wrote:  

Their long-term predisposition is towards one or the other end of the spectrum, which is in turn influenced by short-term factors (guys in their lives, validation from family / social circle, what side of the bed they woke up).

Indeed, it's the cumulative effect of small decisions women make that add up to their long-term predisposition and mentality towards dating and men.

More-so, women are highly influenced by external factors and their peers and you notice this readily within social circles.

(09-04-2018 11:38 AM)godzilla Wrote:  

Nice post

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There are no rules in the moment because she defines what attracts her and you hone in on that and amplify the fuck out of it.

You also must define what attracts you to her!

Of course!

This is already defined before you leave home and I generally know what I want.

For the sake of discussion though (and this coincides with a recent observation), I have noticed that I am attracted to congruence or incongruence within certain girls depending on the girl and my initial suspicions of her.

For example, my most recent lay was a really conservative Afrikaans girl and I was really wrong about her. She was really feisty, had multiple tattoos and is bi-sexual.

Generally, I wouldn't find this very attractive but her 'game' i.e. ability to sell this as a positive to me through sheer contrast of what I thought vs what actually was, had the opposite effect and I was massively attracted to this.

Juxtaposed with the fact that she is pretty much a housewife already by nature of her culture made her more attractive in my eyes.

Sometimes, it's comforting knowing I know what I want and finding a woman to spend the night with.

Other times, it's exciting knowing that my initial expectations are destroyed through some surprise and it ends up being an adventure.

I have considered writing about 'female game' for a while and this is one of the themes, among the tactics of compliance women use to attract or keep men for their own purposes.

An example would be two women who are similar on paper but with a different approach to laying out what they want out of the interaction via actions to affect your responses.

Then you see their actions as a function of pinging off your value. It goes on and on and probably merits its own thread along with the different hypotheses about what girls do past being hot and yes/no game towards men i.e. being active.