Quote: (07-20-2018 12:20 AM)a beer is enough Wrote:
I am going to disagree here, I think MOST guys need to have a stage of their lives when they are sleeping around or living this sort of a lifestyle. No amount of "therapy" or reading is going to replace action, action speaks above all. No matter how many times someone tells you marriage is better than the "empty" player life, at the end of the day, even if he listens to you and gets married he will be unfulfilled.
While I agree that a man cannot live this sort of life forever, few can, they can't go ahead and go right to marriage while having had an unfulfilled player life. I personally left a quality LTR because I wanted to chase this lifestyle.
You don't get "insecurities" out of your system by thinking them away or some bogus therapy, you do it through action. Now I agree that guys who get that certain lifestyle, live it after a while and have their fun might get those insecurities out of their systems but exceptions exist there.
Which makes me want to attack another point, the attack on the player life even in masculine spaces.
I get that some guys want marriage but I feel as if more and more, there is an attack on player life and the lifestyle of a man in his prime fucking lots of random women instead of choosing marriage. It is almost as if the religious right, feminism and masculine spaces have had this marriage of an idea where they agree at one point. Seems like this radical shift has happened, maybe with the death of PUA, to where everywhere you go this sort of life is shamed.
People think that every guy was able to get it out of his system in college but quite frankly, if you were not an athlete or rich frat boy, it is tough to get it out of your system in college if you want anything more than plain or ugly girls.
It is as if the idea of a man past the age of 25 wanting to live the Dan Bilzerian life is under such brutal attack that all such a man can hope for is relying on himself and some dumb luck to make it happen. I find it a bit strange that this sort of a lifestyle is shamed even on a game forum where something "more fulfilling" like a marriage with kids is promoted in regards to it.
I fully intend to spend a great deal of my life with this kind of a lifestyle over marriage and kids but I sometimes feel like where we are heading now as a society, it might be outlawed in the US.
Kind of sad to see how shamed and attacked it is after college.
I agree with most of this and this is also why all the hamstering needs to stop. People need to face their reality and stop trying to sugar coat their insecurities to feel better. For some reason it's very reason early development is very under valued on this forum and people act like it doesn't matter. If you don't have a good love life (not just sex but some loving relationships, maybe sex could possibly be enough for this) by a certain age it can have negative effects on you moving forward through life. I think early 20's is the deadline for this.
I'll post the 15 and in love meme even though it's stupid it has some truths to it.
"lying on the grass on a warm summer night, watching the stars, carelessly chatting
not worrying about rent, bills, student loans
only worry in life is how you're gonna cheat on that history test on monday
you'll never take a young, tight, hot-bodied girls virginity, pulling out to cum all over her back and have her look in your eyes and say "I love you"
you'll never have a girl around every day after school, pretend to be doing homework together, but instead just **** like rabbits
you're in your 20's now
gotta get a good job
gotta be a serious man now
all the good ones are taken
maybe a nice girl will eventually settle with you
they have already felt all those new exciting feelings before, and are usually jaded and bitter
you missed what it feels like to have not a care in the world other than making your girl happy
you have missed out on teenage love"
Obviously this is kind of stupid but it also has a lot of truth to it. If you haven't had a fulfilling love life before "real life" starts barring down on to many people then you'll be missing out. I don't think that deadline is 15 like the meme says but more around early 20's. Since that is around college age and a lot of people are still living with their parents and having their school/expenses covered by either their parents or student loans they are still in that innocence period and the loan repayment won't be in their face yet so they won't have to much "adult" stress. There is definitely a lot of people making it on their own in this age group but their is still a lot of people in a kind of extended adolescence. This contrast is probably why 18 years old to early 20's is seen by a lot of people as the best dating/fucking wise. That's why turning 18 years old then 21 and being in your early 20's is hyped up so much in movies and the media far more then any other age group, to be honest no age group is celebrated anywhere near this.
So what I'm basically saying to everyone that will read this both noobs and those that think they're experts if you haven't passed this age yet do everything in your power to enjoy your early 20's. Once you're out of that age range that 15 and in love meme will really start to sting.
For those that disagree with me what would you put the deadline at? For example what age do you think is to late to lose virginity at and once you pass that age you have probably missed out on a lot that you can't experience now that you're older? Let's not be blue pilled but just say facts and what we really think so anyone that reads this can get a good idea on how to move forward.
@birthday cat
Missing out on having sex with hot girls and even just having a relationship seems like it's the most depressing thing for men these days. That's why you see so many thirst men because like 10% of men are the ones that are really fucking like 90% of women. The amount of men that are virgins and the amount of men that only very rarely get any sex is far higher then is being currently reported. Basically all the stats you see are self reported, not many men will admit to being a virgin or only getting laid once every 2 years. The creation of easily accessible on line porn has not really placated mens sexual urges like a lot of people think but it has made them more aware of what they are missing out on. Sure they'll rub one out to pornhub but they'll still have a longing for the real thing.