This is a good thread and I have gone through few similar experiences.
To the OP, I agree with the advice given by the rest of the posters. It is just a little hard to execute, especially if you don't give physical attraction tingles from the get go. Some guys instantly give the girls that upon meeting and things move fast, ending up in ONS. If the sex is good then they get repeat business.
I am also trying to do the same. Goto gym, dress well, have positive energy during meeting the girl, stay cool and try to have solid frame. Its all easier said than done.
I want to ask the forum, how much should a guy let a girl control the situation? By control, I mean to say that even if she suggests something such as inviting over, should the guy always negate? I am facing issues reasoning what is beneficial to me and if what the girl says seems beneficial to me, I take it up. I do feel it gives the girl power but at the same time I gained. For example, instead of travelling 20 miles to a nice bar near the girls place, which I suggested, I goto a place 10 miles near me because the girl instead wanted to goto a bar there. I see that I save time and uber costs, so I agree with the girl. Does it shift the balance of power from the get go?
Then in regards to the idea of calling out girls when they are leading you and you aren't, I try to do it in a chilled way, teasing them and showing that I keep my cool. I feel this method doesn't work and it looks like a cheap sales trick. The girl just presses on.
So, is it alright to just say no bluntly to a girl who is trying to lead. Tell her almost directly its my way or the highway, even if you have not yet had sex?
And for average or not so good looking guys,who upon meeting the girls keep them on fence in terms of attraction, what frame should such guys maintain and what behavior would such guys have to show to start giving her tingles and push her to extreme attraction? So that the girl starts wanting it, becomes submissive and does not try to lead, dominate or dictate the situation?
To the OP, I agree with the advice given by the rest of the posters. It is just a little hard to execute, especially if you don't give physical attraction tingles from the get go. Some guys instantly give the girls that upon meeting and things move fast, ending up in ONS. If the sex is good then they get repeat business.
I am also trying to do the same. Goto gym, dress well, have positive energy during meeting the girl, stay cool and try to have solid frame. Its all easier said than done.
I want to ask the forum, how much should a guy let a girl control the situation? By control, I mean to say that even if she suggests something such as inviting over, should the guy always negate? I am facing issues reasoning what is beneficial to me and if what the girl says seems beneficial to me, I take it up. I do feel it gives the girl power but at the same time I gained. For example, instead of travelling 20 miles to a nice bar near the girls place, which I suggested, I goto a place 10 miles near me because the girl instead wanted to goto a bar there. I see that I save time and uber costs, so I agree with the girl. Does it shift the balance of power from the get go?
Then in regards to the idea of calling out girls when they are leading you and you aren't, I try to do it in a chilled way, teasing them and showing that I keep my cool. I feel this method doesn't work and it looks like a cheap sales trick. The girl just presses on.
So, is it alright to just say no bluntly to a girl who is trying to lead. Tell her almost directly its my way or the highway, even if you have not yet had sex?
And for average or not so good looking guys,who upon meeting the girls keep them on fence in terms of attraction, what frame should such guys maintain and what behavior would such guys have to show to start giving her tingles and push her to extreme attraction? So that the girl starts wanting it, becomes submissive and does not try to lead, dominate or dictate the situation?