[pancakemouse]

(05-27-2018 04:39 PM)SLSlayer Wrote:  

Sounds like you’re getting a window of opportunity based on your looks (no instant blowouts) but they sense something is “off” with your vibe.

Judging from your posts you might be coming across as too robotic/autistic.

You might be do better with foreign/non-native English speakers. Maybe try seeking these venues?

I have decent looks for club standards, I have a nice physique and wear a tight V-neck to show it off. I don't get too many blowouts, and when they do happen, it's either a fast cockblock from a friend or because I'm too aggressive.

Temple is very much a non-native venue (lots of Asian girls). Not really my thing but it's the closest club to my house, so logistics win there.

(05-27-2018 06:51 PM)RDF Wrote:  

That's not bad man, I've been to Temple before, its a great venue if you're trying to get practice with opening lots of different girls, and it can absolutely work for pulling same night. Definitely a lot of Asians but there's cute girls out there forsure. Here's a few pointers.

- The "I have to find my friends" objection will always happen at clubs like this when you escalate quickly. Always, and ESPECIALLY early in the night. I know this based on a lot of experience with going to these types of places. Very few girls are going to leave their friend group to fuck a guy within a few minutes unless its late in the night and she's really interested. After you open a girl, isolate her for a little, and get some positive feedback that she's at least somewhat into you, you should proceed in one of two ways.

1) Say that you have to go back to your friend group, use the bathroom, whatever, and leave her before she has the chance to leave you. You can also grab her number/whatsapp if you want. I usually say something like "I'll probably end up losing you in here, but you seem cool so put your number in, I'll be around". Then, when you re-engage her later, you're doing so from a position of strength.

2) Proactively walk with her back to her friend group and integrate with them. Talk to the other girls, find out where they're from, ask about the DJ, etc etc. If there's guys in the group, talk to them too. People sometimes say that by doing this you can waste your entire night with a group and then not end up pulling, but I would avoid that by integrating with a group for no more than ~20 mins unless by that time, it is clear your girl is DTF later, and the logistics are reasonable or better (ie: she didn't drive in from San Jose with 7 friends). 20 mins isn't a long time in the scope of a night out.

- With the set #2 that you describe, that is a type of chick that I would recommend avoiding. Somehow these are always white girls haha. Obviously drunk girls like that look like the easiest pull, but the sloppiness, shitty sex, and possibility of a false accusation makes me avoid them. If you want to play that game, you make your moves FAST. Verbal escalation is useless. You should be making out within a minute and then figuring out logistics for the bang. If she's not interested, next.

- Later in the night, when there isn't as much time to play the long game, you can generally be much faster with escalation. You clearly have no approach anxiety and have experience with women, but as you've said, most of your experience comes from dates. In venues like this, you can move much faster than on a date. Set #4, who was clearly interested, is a good example. I'm assuming you opened her at ~130 or so. I would've broken the touch barrier ("kino") within 10 seconds, and probably try to kiss her within a minute or two right there in the hallway.

- For the situation when a girl is clearly into you, you've already made out and talked dirty (like #3) but she is is having doubts, you should tell her that you're grabbing an uber, and she can either go with you or not. If she doesn't, then you leave. If she does, you've got it. I've pulled a 50/50 girl several times like this. Push her to make a decision.

Overall good stuff. In short, the strategy should be to play the long game earlier in the night with girls that you get a good vibe from (even working in w/ their group), and then escalating very quickly to the pull later in the night. If you want see how fast nightgame pulling can be, you should go clubbing in Las Vegas at some point. It is scary how fast one can pull at night in the right circumstance.

Bro. Fantastic advice and you read my situation well, I will be taking this to heart when I go out tonight. If anyone reading this thread wants to join me, shoot me a PM.

I am all about fast pulls and not wasting time, so I definitely want to try out Vegas or some other sort of "party" location sometime.