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05-27-2018, 04:13 PM
Update on my nightgame progress with a field report from last night. I've probably gone out 18 nights this year.
I figured out that one of my big sticking points is venue selection. I spent the entire night, from 11-2:15, at Temple, solo. Girls seemed to be much more open to rapid escalation, kino, and potential single night lays, than bars on Polk St. or the Marina.
I approached 30+ sets during the night. The most notable:
1. Right after entering I walk into the bar and the hottest girl (6.5) out of an Asian 3-set immediately locks eyes with me and offers me a sip of her drink. She and her friends are a little drunk. I engage her and the friends for 30 seconds, then I grab her by the hand and isolate to a wall near the entrance. Heavy kino, I'm playing with her hair, asking logistical questions (they are visiting from Sacramento and staying in a hotel). But as I'm doing this, after 5 minutes or so, she says she has to get back to her friends. I say "2 seconds, 2 seconds", but she's off. I say "find me later". 20 minutes later I find her and her friends again. To the fat friend "I like your friend, but can I trust her?" Her fat friend says yes and pushes me toward her saying "go get her!" and trying to hook us up, but suddenly my girl is unreceptive. I go to my girl again and try to lead her to the bar and she rejects me.
2. ~30 year old white 7 visiting with friends from Healdsburg. I walk up to her, strong eye contact, and say "I see you working it over there". She's clearly drunk. We talk for a minute, and then she says "I have to tell you, I'm just here with my friends, I'm not here to meet guys. You are incredibly handsome, though, and I love how confident you are." I try disqualifying with "I'm not here to meet girls, I'm actually really shy." She ejects and says "we'll see each other later in the night". I see her three times later in the night. First time she's with her friends dancing, I dance with them but she's not very receptive so I eject. Second time, 30 minutes later she's being grinded on by some fat bearded guy. I AMOG him, grab her arm, and lead her away. She ejects, saying "that's my boyfriend" (it most definitely wasn't). Third time, she's passed the fuck out in the smoking section being looked after by her gay friend.
3. 37 year old Jamaican 6.5 visiting from Houston. She's walking across the club floor alone in high heels. I engage with strong eye contact and immediately start leading her towards the bar where it's easier to hear. She says "I'm not leaving" and I handle the objection with "we're just going to the bar". She's more into me than any girl has been during all my nightgame sessions. Flopping all over me, etc. I'm hugging her, pulling her hair, whispering into her ear, etc. Here with 2 friends but they're off in another part of the club. 10 minutes of banter, including me telling her "If no one was here right now, I'd bend you over and do bad things to you". I seed the pull and say she should come get a drink at my place. She insinuates I want to hook up with her and I say I don't hook up. "Then why do you want to have a drink with me if you don't want to hook up, I'm older than you, I know what guys want, blah blah blah", I keep disqualifying saying I'm very shy, eventually I keep spilling water on her cause she's flopping all over me and she gets mad and leaves.
4. Taiwanese 7.5 in the hallway, I use my "we have to kick you out, there's no texting allowed here" fake bouncer opener, she runs away, I laugh and say I'm kidding. Pull her back, chat for 3 minutes, she has to get back to her friends, she's laughing and fairly compliant. WhatsApp close. At 2:30 AM she texts me asking if I'm still in the venue, I was already on my way home. I ask her to Uber to me, no answer.
Lots of other girls during the night I chatted with for 30 seconds-2 minutes, then they would eject with "I have to go find my friends". I'm not sure how to handle this objection. What do I do, do I re-approach later, do I make them stay? Or am I getting the objection because I'm being too forward and showing too much intent?
I figured out that one of my big sticking points is venue selection. I spent the entire night, from 11-2:15, at Temple, solo. Girls seemed to be much more open to rapid escalation, kino, and potential single night lays, than bars on Polk St. or the Marina.
I approached 30+ sets during the night. The most notable:
1. Right after entering I walk into the bar and the hottest girl (6.5) out of an Asian 3-set immediately locks eyes with me and offers me a sip of her drink. She and her friends are a little drunk. I engage her and the friends for 30 seconds, then I grab her by the hand and isolate to a wall near the entrance. Heavy kino, I'm playing with her hair, asking logistical questions (they are visiting from Sacramento and staying in a hotel). But as I'm doing this, after 5 minutes or so, she says she has to get back to her friends. I say "2 seconds, 2 seconds", but she's off. I say "find me later". 20 minutes later I find her and her friends again. To the fat friend "I like your friend, but can I trust her?" Her fat friend says yes and pushes me toward her saying "go get her!" and trying to hook us up, but suddenly my girl is unreceptive. I go to my girl again and try to lead her to the bar and she rejects me.
2. ~30 year old white 7 visiting with friends from Healdsburg. I walk up to her, strong eye contact, and say "I see you working it over there". She's clearly drunk. We talk for a minute, and then she says "I have to tell you, I'm just here with my friends, I'm not here to meet guys. You are incredibly handsome, though, and I love how confident you are." I try disqualifying with "I'm not here to meet girls, I'm actually really shy." She ejects and says "we'll see each other later in the night". I see her three times later in the night. First time she's with her friends dancing, I dance with them but she's not very receptive so I eject. Second time, 30 minutes later she's being grinded on by some fat bearded guy. I AMOG him, grab her arm, and lead her away. She ejects, saying "that's my boyfriend" (it most definitely wasn't). Third time, she's passed the fuck out in the smoking section being looked after by her gay friend.
3. 37 year old Jamaican 6.5 visiting from Houston. She's walking across the club floor alone in high heels. I engage with strong eye contact and immediately start leading her towards the bar where it's easier to hear. She says "I'm not leaving" and I handle the objection with "we're just going to the bar". She's more into me than any girl has been during all my nightgame sessions. Flopping all over me, etc. I'm hugging her, pulling her hair, whispering into her ear, etc. Here with 2 friends but they're off in another part of the club. 10 minutes of banter, including me telling her "If no one was here right now, I'd bend you over and do bad things to you". I seed the pull and say she should come get a drink at my place. She insinuates I want to hook up with her and I say I don't hook up. "Then why do you want to have a drink with me if you don't want to hook up, I'm older than you, I know what guys want, blah blah blah", I keep disqualifying saying I'm very shy, eventually I keep spilling water on her cause she's flopping all over me and she gets mad and leaves.
4. Taiwanese 7.5 in the hallway, I use my "we have to kick you out, there's no texting allowed here" fake bouncer opener, she runs away, I laugh and say I'm kidding. Pull her back, chat for 3 minutes, she has to get back to her friends, she's laughing and fairly compliant. WhatsApp close. At 2:30 AM she texts me asking if I'm still in the venue, I was already on my way home. I ask her to Uber to me, no answer.
Lots of other girls during the night I chatted with for 30 seconds-2 minutes, then they would eject with "I have to go find my friends". I'm not sure how to handle this objection. What do I do, do I re-approach later, do I make them stay? Or am I getting the objection because I'm being too forward and showing too much intent?