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Do Wingmen Hurt More than they Help?
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Do Wingmen Hurt More than they Help?

Quote: (05-22-2018 08:13 AM)Rocha Wrote:  

This is a very interesting theme for me, that I have been thinking about lately. I hope I can find time to elaborate a bit later. But just two or three thoughts;

- Extremely good looking wingman compared to me are a no go. They will get all the attention almost effortless and will leave me frustrated, specially in places with a few targets. I dont mind hanging out if he is a really cool guy and I enjoy his company, but if in one of the aforementioned places I know I better just enjoy the company and not think much about pulling girls.
Exceptions is when its a good looking couple, then it will raise my value, or in a big club with all the chaos involved and I can do my thing.

- Ugly, not stylish enough or non social calibrated wingman also a no go. Will lower my value and as the saying goes, "tell me who you hang out with and I tell you who you are". Also can get me frustrated.

- Passive guys who dont approach but also dont fuck up your approaches, I am OK with that. I can keep conversation flowing by myself.

- The ideal wing is a guy who is not much better or much worse looking than me. Is a good buddy to have some drinks and chat, can help entertaining a pair of girls, does not get jeleous that you are having success, and respects the rule of the one who approached first has not only priority but exclusivity. In sum, one hand washes the other, I will help him too.

Nonetheless the need of a wing is overrated, most of my bangs came while solo.

Also finding the ideal wingman is one of the most difficults aspects of game, or of life, it is a very big conjugation of factors, is not easy to find like minded people, loyal, articulate, with the same levels of energy, money, style...etc.

This is a very concise breakdown although I'd argue the first point. I have better success with wings better looking than me.

An extreme example of this is I am friends with a former NBA player who is not only a former NBA player but much better looking and far far far wealthier than I am. When I first started hanging out with him I was frustrated but eventually we got our game to match up through some communication. The key was we actually had very different taste in girls. He liked more meat on the bones and I like them rail thin. Some girls that know basketball come for selfies and to (attempt) to hang out other girls actually do not give a fuck and just wanted to hang out. I have no problem separating and isolating at the end of a evening when we hang out. We also rarely go back to his place unless we decide to throw an after party. Even then I've many times been able to get a girl to leave the after party with me and uber back to my much less impressive place.

While I might be many times the 2nd pick compared to my friend why should I care.? I've had a few instances where a girl asked me to go back to my place and barely even acknowledged his presence.
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