Quote: (03-30-2018 10:46 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:
----->the only thing that matters is what she feels in response to what you say.[/i]<-------
Do you see the difference?
So the question isn't "what do I say?"
The question youre looking for is "What do I want her to feel?"
+1 (edit: already rated you)
This is the soul essence of seduction. You aren't going to logic her into giving the pussy up. You can't make sense outta nonsense.
Some people are able to do most of the seduction from across the room without ever laying eyes on the girl first. Body language, presence, how they dress.
When they see the girl: eye contact, body positioning, smile, etc
When they talk to them: body positioning, kino, spacing, sitting or standing, etc.
These things reach for a girls feelings and make her subconsciously feel some type of way about you as a mate. This stuff eventually works its way into some secret society shit but I digress.
My advice: step up your non verbal communication to create feelings. If your verbal game is on point but you're non-verbal is off she will pick up on it. XX chromosomes=double dose of intuition
Quote: (03-31-2018 05:36 AM)Hazaer Wrote:
Update: She replied with 'hey man how is it going?' Something was off about the message but I replied saying I got some wine I wanted to try with her and if she was up for wine tasting. She replies 'sorry but i am busy...'
Dont know if that convo was the reason. Or maybe it was some advanced form of attention seeking behavior I dont know about that 1st years engage in. Wasnt really attracted to her so well, its her loss I guess.
Quote: (03-31-2018 05:04 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:
Quote: (03-29-2018 11:33 AM)PapayaTapper Wrote:
Edit: If you still want to bang her you have one more shot. Next time you see her make a direct move (number, coffee, Netflix...whatever). She needs to know that youre thinking of her as a sexual target (discreetly of course) in order for her attraction wiring to kick in.
You either
-You care more (not the girl as much as about this opportunity) than you let on and therefore were afraid to wait try in person
or
- You are missing some some fundamental understanding of attraction principles.
Combination of the last two and being too patient. Whether or not you waited on the guy to be gone in her eyes you kinda did.=youre not a man
You didn't pick up that she was available and even stuck up for the other guy= you're not interested and/or not a man
She texted you on some friendzone shit and didn't shut it down or display some high value= not a man and/or uninteresting
(ps. the wine comment is for when you know the sexual attraction is there. without the escalation its kinda weird/creepy)
You've let off a string of non-assertivenss and in my experience thats hard to recover from. Its like she was in your bed and you didn't go for the kill. I've never made it back from that.
I do think PT is right and that you can win this but I don't necessarily agree with the process.
It doesnt matter at this time that she sees you as a sexual being or not--youve shown multiple times that you aren't. Direct is the logical assessment and puts the ball in her court if you've helped her see she needs to shot the shot--homie has not helped her see that.
The nonsensical move would be low key show some interest in one/multiple friends of hers--shows you do have the balls to go for what you are attracted to while simultaneously causing her to wonder why she couldn't get you to do that...now she has to chase to prove her attractiveness.
She is now friendzoned without you saying it and this will create the image of you as a sexual being even though its with her friends. Get the girls out to a party or something and try to seduce them while keeping old girl involved in he festivities but freezing her out. Women are territorial and if she starts competing good for you if not you've got new prospects so who cares.
The trick her is getting her to get her friends out without her taking your attraction to them personally and tanking it.
Attraction and passion are non-negotiable