I've noticed a kind of "divide" in thinking styles on the forum and elsewhere amongst RP men.
First type of perspective is: the SMP sucks, quality and quantity of women sucks, even getting worse in formerly non-western good locations, the glory days of pickup are over, smartphones and technology are ruining women not just in the west but worldwide, so even the poosy paradises that have not yet been destroyed will soon be. The obvious decisions from this perspective is: give up and become incel; go MGTOW; kill yourself. Not even being sarcastic with the last one, the male/female suicide ratio is 4:1. It's a serious problem. So all in all pretty depressing.
Second type of perspective goes along the lines of: yeah there is decline, but we only have one life so let's try to make the best of it. Let's help each other out on the forum to at least mitigate as much as we can the big problems that we do undeniably face. The decisions from this perspective are: OK, so if women are increasingly hypergamous sluts let's learn game, travel the world and bang as many as possible, something which is not possible if all girls are conservative, reserved and stubborn in their lack of hypergamous desires. OK, so smartphones do corrupt women's minds, but let's use technology as much as we can to get as much out of life as we can too, women and otherwise. OK, so X city or Y country is just impossible for me, I'm going to work hard and become location independent so that I can live in a place that gives me the rewards my hard work deserves. Examples of this on the forum are DigitalNomad who apart from being a freak of nature both mentally and hepatically, goes around the world and bangs mostly "travel/holiday mode" sluts from all across the spectrum. Some of these girls no doubt have BFs, but the fact that they are girls in "moral decline" serves to his advantage. Pure hedonism replacing the old 1950s America of the wife, kids, white picket fence. Or other guys from the forum I know, some of whom are banned for whatever reason, traveling the world using their smartphones to do exclusively online game in places where it has a lot of girls willing to meet, usually SEA and SA. Sure quality can suffer a lot by exclusive online game but it's much better than killing yourself.
I'm not involved in the argument but as for facts, both perspectives are correct. They are just different ways of looking at and acting upon the very same factors. Could the calculations in the OP attract some criticism regarding overanalysis? Sure. But the overall point is true: wherever you go, however good your "game" is, only a small percentage of women are (a) available and (b) at least decent quality at any given time. What one chooses to do with this reality is one's own personal decision.
I've lost my old "Pickup" friends, who were my genuine friends, not just Pickup wingmen, because there came a point where our lives diverged. I maintained stubbornly my goals of a certain quality and quantity of women, whatever I had to do for it. They on the other hand, after understandable years of attempting to game increasingly insufferable and difficult women in the US, chose stable jobs and mediocre but stable LTRs and marriage. We barely speak anymore because as I come back from 3 months in EE they don't want to hear about banging from cold approach anymore, and they don't really have much new to report apart from engagement and marriage. The office jobs they have aren't really that different day to day. Both they and I regard me as stupid, idiotic, for continuing to pursue dreams of Slavic models and traditional EE girls for LTRs, traveling to multiple cities and countries to try and make it happen. Maybe they're right and I will fail but incel and MGTOW and suicide being the other choices, I will continue to try.
First type of perspective is: the SMP sucks, quality and quantity of women sucks, even getting worse in formerly non-western good locations, the glory days of pickup are over, smartphones and technology are ruining women not just in the west but worldwide, so even the poosy paradises that have not yet been destroyed will soon be. The obvious decisions from this perspective is: give up and become incel; go MGTOW; kill yourself. Not even being sarcastic with the last one, the male/female suicide ratio is 4:1. It's a serious problem. So all in all pretty depressing.
Second type of perspective goes along the lines of: yeah there is decline, but we only have one life so let's try to make the best of it. Let's help each other out on the forum to at least mitigate as much as we can the big problems that we do undeniably face. The decisions from this perspective are: OK, so if women are increasingly hypergamous sluts let's learn game, travel the world and bang as many as possible, something which is not possible if all girls are conservative, reserved and stubborn in their lack of hypergamous desires. OK, so smartphones do corrupt women's minds, but let's use technology as much as we can to get as much out of life as we can too, women and otherwise. OK, so X city or Y country is just impossible for me, I'm going to work hard and become location independent so that I can live in a place that gives me the rewards my hard work deserves. Examples of this on the forum are DigitalNomad who apart from being a freak of nature both mentally and hepatically, goes around the world and bangs mostly "travel/holiday mode" sluts from all across the spectrum. Some of these girls no doubt have BFs, but the fact that they are girls in "moral decline" serves to his advantage. Pure hedonism replacing the old 1950s America of the wife, kids, white picket fence. Or other guys from the forum I know, some of whom are banned for whatever reason, traveling the world using their smartphones to do exclusively online game in places where it has a lot of girls willing to meet, usually SEA and SA. Sure quality can suffer a lot by exclusive online game but it's much better than killing yourself.
I'm not involved in the argument but as for facts, both perspectives are correct. They are just different ways of looking at and acting upon the very same factors. Could the calculations in the OP attract some criticism regarding overanalysis? Sure. But the overall point is true: wherever you go, however good your "game" is, only a small percentage of women are (a) available and (b) at least decent quality at any given time. What one chooses to do with this reality is one's own personal decision.
I've lost my old "Pickup" friends, who were my genuine friends, not just Pickup wingmen, because there came a point where our lives diverged. I maintained stubbornly my goals of a certain quality and quantity of women, whatever I had to do for it. They on the other hand, after understandable years of attempting to game increasingly insufferable and difficult women in the US, chose stable jobs and mediocre but stable LTRs and marriage. We barely speak anymore because as I come back from 3 months in EE they don't want to hear about banging from cold approach anymore, and they don't really have much new to report apart from engagement and marriage. The office jobs they have aren't really that different day to day. Both they and I regard me as stupid, idiotic, for continuing to pursue dreams of Slavic models and traditional EE girls for LTRs, traveling to multiple cities and countries to try and make it happen. Maybe they're right and I will fail but incel and MGTOW and suicide being the other choices, I will continue to try.